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Old 12-21-2010, 05:20 PM   #11
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This defense reminds me a lot like the 2006 Colts defense - terrible statistically but created a lot of timely turnovers.
Don't you mean that Colts Team that beat us in the AFC-CG and went on to defeat Chicago in the SB? Because i was thinking the same thing.
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Default Re: Curran:Will defense betray the Patriots in the end?

What concerns me is how this defense will do in the playoffs against a team that has seen it already (Ravens/Colts/Chargers/Steelers). But a bye and playing at home should help.
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No team in NFL in the past 10 years has had a regular season record better than 8-8 giving up this size of yardage to offenses but this years Pats team is on its way to being the first to do so
Talk about timely mistakes from the opponents

Will defense betray Patriots in the end?
But thats not really the case. A lot of the yards were allowed with big leads when frankly they were meaningless.
Yards that dont add to points are not as relevant as yards that result in points, and yards that result in points when you lead by 3 scores not as relevant as yards that result in points in a tie game.
This is the reason that UNDERLYING statistics are not a better gauge of how good a team is (and a team is only as good as its abilty to win, no more no less) than the actual results of winning and losing.
For some reason sports fans in this country want to think they can judge what statistics have the most to do with winning and losing when in fact the weight on different categories is different from team to team, season to season and game to game.
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What concerns me is how this defense will do in the playoffs against a team that has seen it already (Ravens/Colts/Chargers/Steelers). But a bye and playing at home should help.
Not sure why you have that particular concern.
I see it the other way. Those offenses are what they are and the Pat D has seen them, but the Pat d is growing and changing week to week.
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Don't you mean that Colts Team that beat us in the AFC-CG and went on to defeat Chicago in the SB? Because i was thinking the same thing.
We discussed the parallels a couple of months ago in a different thread.

2006 Colts- SB Champions

The Bad
Allowed 22.5 ppg
21st in yards allowed
30th in yards allowed per play
32nd in 3rd down defense.
32nd in rushing yards and ypc.
31st in rushing TDs allowed
30th in comp %
20th in INTs
30th in sacks
28th in 1st downs allowed

The Good
5th in passing TD allowed
15th in Qb Rating
2nd in passing yards allowed
2nd in yards per comp.
1st in fewest pass plays > 20 yrds
6th in forced fumbles

My take: They kept everything in front of them. Sounds familiar?
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But thats not really the case. A lot of the yards were allowed with big leads when frankly they were meaningless.
Yards that dont add to points are not as relevant as yards that result in points, and yards that result in points when you lead by 3 scores not as relevant as yards that result in points in a tie game.
This is the reason that UNDERLYING statistics are not a better gauge of how good a team is (and a team is only as good as its abilty to win, no more no less) than the actual results of winning and losing.
For some reason sports fans in this country want to think they can judge what statistics have the most to do with winning and losing when in fact the weight on different categories is different from team to team, season to season and game to game.
The only thing that's truly p***ed me off this season is going into prevent against Peyton Manning. If you attack, he's going to go for the big yards, if you don't, he's still going to go for the big yards.
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Will we be vulnerable to the run with only three Defensive linemen and no Spikes? Duh?

Let's look at a laundry list of statistics instead of watching how they're getting it done each game and how they will continue, if they are healthy.
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The only thing that's truly p***ed me off this season is going into prevent against Peyton Manning. If you attack, he's going to go for the big yards, if you don't, he's still going to go for the big yards.
If you attack, he'll pass for 6 touchdowns. That's just so ridiculous. Let's send the house and depend on our total of three cornerbacks, [a rook, an UDFA and a 2nd year demotee] to stop Manning. No problem, he's not really a good passer.

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Reality check... Manning had beaten us five out of the last 6 meetings.

Our "prevent defense" (it was hardly that) held him to a long pass of 28 yards (including YAC) we intercepted him 3 times and we won!
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The only thing that's truly p***ed me off this season is going into prevent against Peyton Manning. If you attack, he's going to go for the big yards, if you don't, he's still going to go for the big yards.
It was about more than the pass coverage calls.
The pf penalty was 15 yards of a 60 yard drive. (or something like that)
The draw play was almost half the yardage of another drive.
The offense didnt stay on the field very long in between any of those drives.
Pretty much from the point where the comeback started up until the Int, pretty much every single thing went prefectly for the Colts, and they still almost ran out of time. Play that style of defense 100 times, and they run out of time 95 of them. That is not the makings of bad strategy.
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We discussed the parallels a couple of months ago in a different thread.

2006 Colts- SB Champions

The Bad
Allowed 22.5 ppg
21st in yards allowed
30th in yards allowed per play
32nd in 3rd down defense.
32nd in rushing yards and ypc.
31st in rushing TDs allowed
30th in comp %
20th in INTs
30th in sacks
28th in 1st downs allowed

The Good
5th in passing TD allowed
15th in Qb Rating
2nd in passing yards allowed
2nd in yards per comp.
1st in fewest pass plays > 20 yrds
6th in forced fumbles

My take: They kept everything in front of them. Sounds familiar?
They also played substantially better in the playoffs than at any point in the regular season, particularly vs the run.
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