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Re: What is up with the Pats defense and backup QB's
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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
Thats because fans expect young or backup QBs to go 4-32 with 3 Ints.
YOung and backup QBs can be effective. They can especially be effective TO AN EXTENT against a defense that is conservative like ours
However, if you look at the record, we lose to young or inexperienced QBs a lot less than anyone else does.
This is one of the differences between our D and an aggressive D, the kind people routinely clamor for.
An aggressive D will kill terrible teams. We beat them whether we kill them or not. An aggressive D will not do as well against good teams.
If you want to win by more points against bad teams, but win less ofen against good teams, then you should continue to complain about the statistics that teams we beat accumulate during their loss.
The bolded is a false statement. There have been plenty of aggressive defenses that have won SBs. In fact, there are probably more aggressive defenses that have won SBs than conservative defenses. I can't even think of a conservative defense that have won a SB other than the Patriots and BB's Giants when he was the DC.
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Re: What is up with the Pats defense and backup QB's
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Originally Posted by condon84
The bolded is a false statement. There have been plenty of aggressive defenses that have won SBs. In fact, there are probably more aggressive defenses that have won SBs than conservative defenses. I can't even think of a conservative defense that have won a SB other than the Patriots and BB's Giants when he was the DC.
Re: What is up with the Pats defense and backup QB's
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Originally Posted by condon84
The bolded is a false statement. There have been plenty of aggressive defenses that have won SBs. In fact, there are probably more aggressive defenses that have won SBs than conservative defenses. I can't even think of a conservative defense that have won a SB other than the Patriots and BB's Giants when he was the DC.
Simply not true.
In fact you have it backwards, it is very rare for an aggressive D to win the SB.
Re: What is up with the Pats defense and backup QB's
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Originally Posted by Lloyd_Christmas
I agree. I was thinking the same thing about them exploiting the short middle area of our defense.
There have been a few games this year where teams have had a lot of success in that part of the field against us.
Flynn was practically earning a living in that area, though. The only other game where I saw the same thing was against the Chargers when Rivers was hitting the zone all throughout the second half and nearly came back to win. This was after trying to get big time yardage at the sticks earlier in the game and getting denied. I guess he found out what Belichick was going to allow. Finally we switched to some man coverage and Rivers got confused which forced their final drive to stall.
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Re: What is up with the Pats defense and backup QB's
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Originally Posted by unoriginal
Since 2000, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis.
Wouldn't you put the Giants in there too? They won their Super Bowl by primarily rushing only their front four and playing man to man in the secondary. That would give us, since 2000, St. Louis, New England, Tampa Bay, New England, New England, Indy, and New York.
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Re: What is up with the Pats defense and backup QB's
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Originally Posted by KontradictioN
Wouldn't you put the Giants in there too? They won their Super Bowl by primarily rushing only their front four and playing man to man in the secondary. That would give us, since 2000, St. Louis, New England, Tampa Bay, New England, New England, Indy, and New York.
Steve Spagnuolo has a reputation as a blitzer that, say, Tony Dungy doesn't. In the SB they may not have blitzed much, but they did Week 17, so I wouldn't call him conservative. In fact I believe his philosophy was developed under Jim Johnson.
Re: What is up with the Pats defense and backup QB's
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Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77
Not necessarily. Most of the problems right now are injury related (they have two DLs on IR, plus they were down three more tonight).
i think we have a good DL as well. a pure pass rusher would be nice DE. Other than that we have a good rotation at NT/DT and we will have Ty Warren back as well next year. One more pass rush type DE should do it, then OLB
Re: What is up with the Pats defense and backup QB's
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Originally Posted by condon84
Ok, name me another conservative defense that have won the SB.
In the last 9 years, Colts, Bucs, Patriots, Patriots, Patriots were conservative
Steelers, Steelers, Saints were aggressive
Giants were neither overly aggressive or overly conservative.
All of the dynasty teams (Pats, 9ers, Steelers, Cowboys) were genrally conservative.
Re: What is up with the Pats defense and backup QB's
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