Dancing on NY "Journalists"(Update on William C. Rhoden) - New England Patriots Forums

***shmessy*** · 12-07-2010, 12:05 AM

Allow us to step on the amateurish NY journalists from major newspapers:

William C. Rhoden: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/07/sp.../07rhoden.html
(*****This column was originally filed at 1:00pm the day of the game and was originally titled "The Day the Patriots Empire Began to Crumble" - in just the past hour several parts of it were changed to reflect what happened in the game and to save the hide of the writer who, believe me, was dancing on the grave of the Patriots earlier. Gutless coward.)

Gary Myers: Jets will beat Patriots Monday to seize control of AFC East, prove they're ready for Super Bowl run

Steve Serby: Why Jets will beat Patriots tonight - NYPOST.com

***ALP*** · 12-07-2010, 12:10 AM

1 thing worse than making stupid projections

not being man enough to admit them

tuckeverlasting · 12-07-2010, 04:13 AM

if rhoden wasn't such a homer he would admit the yankees are in decline and their ws require asterisks because steroids have a much larger affect on winning and losing than a camera would. players win games, not vcr's.

TulanePats · 12-07-2010, 04:48 AM

NYT, war is peace...

Bostonian1962 · 12-07-2010, 05:33 AM

Rhoden says in his post-game article that when Kevin Faulk went down, the Patriots plugged in BJGE in his place. Since Rhoden doesn't know that Woodhead took the Faulk role, I would not expect he'd know much overall, to back up his predictions.

***DarrylS*** · 12-07-2010, 06:36 AM

Humble pie is good for the soul.. from teh Post:

Patriots make mouthy Jets speechless - NYPOST.com

Quote:

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. – In the cold truth of the locker room, the chatter had been silenced, the swagger kneecapped. Players shook their heads a lot. They offered up explanations, understanding immediately that nobody wanted to hear excuses.

“It’s simple,” linebacker Calvin Pace said. “We were whupped.”

“We didn’t tackle them and we didn’t contain them,” safety Eric Smith whispered. “And against a good team you’re asking for trouble.”

Jets crash and burn in AFC East ‘showdown’ - NYPOST.com

Quote:

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. — That hostile AFC East takeover the Jets were poised to execute against the Patriots?

That’ll have to wait for another day — maybe another decade.

As the Jets wake up this morning with a hangover, with their stunning 45-3 beat-down loss last night at Gillette Stadium still ringing in their heads, they’ll be staring up in the standings at the same team they’ve been looking up at for most of the last decade: Those damned Patriots.

NYCPatsFan · 12-07-2010, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmessy

Allow us to step on the amateurish NY journalists from major newspapers:

William C. Rhoden: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/07/sp.../07rhoden.html
(*****This column was originally filed at 1:00pm the day of the game and was originally titled "The Day the Patriots Empire Began to Crumble" - in just the past hour several parts of it were changed to reflect what happened in the game and to save the hide of the writer who, believe me, was dancing on the grave of the Patriots earlier. Gutless coward.)

Gary Myers: Jets will beat Patriots Monday to seize control of AFC East, prove they're ready for Super Bowl run

Steve Serby: Why Jets will beat Patriots tonight - NYPOST.com

Deplorable that the NYT article talks about cameragate and its pathetic that the writer has little idea what happened back then.

I am going to email that writer providing him quotes on BB's interview. Even if he doesn't come to senses, I hope it gets posted so that one or two non-Pats fan realize that stupid overreaction to the event called cameragate.

karguy85 · 12-07-2010, 11:25 AM

Here is Rhoden's article. Posting it here so he can't get away from his lack of professionalism. You can write anything you want, but don't pretend you never wrote it.

Quote:

C/P NY Times
Sports of The Times
By WILLIAM C. RHODEN

Published: December 6, 2010

In the days leading up to his team’s showdown with New England, Jets Coach Rex Ryan went out of his way to praise Bill Belichick, the Patriots’ dour head coach.

Ryan called Belichick the best in the business and a respected opponent.

“I think he’s the No. 1 coach in this league,” Ryan said. “That’s undisputable. He’s smart. He gets his team going every year. He’s a great evaluator of talent. I do admire him, as a son of a coach. Do I want to be like him? No, I want to be like myself, but I want to have the success that he’s had through the years.”

Normally unrestrained in heaping praise on his team, Ryan was careful with his remarks about Belichick and the Patriots. It was as if he wanted to play down the perception that a shift in power was taking place.

Too late. The shift has occurred: the Jets are in ascendancy, while New England is in retrograde, though it has nothing to do with one game, one season, injuries or upheaval.

The shift was set in motion three seasons ago by a moral misstep by Belichick. The Patriots empire began to unravel the day New England was caught cheating.

After an opening-season game between the Jets and the Patriots in September 2007, Eric Mangini, the Jets’ head coach at the time, reported New England for videotaping the Jets’ defensive signals. The Jets confiscated the tape and turned it over to the N.F.L.

The scandal, which came to be called Spygate, put New England and Belichick under a cloud, though by 2007 several teams had begun to suspect the Patriots were taping opposing coaches.

The Packers caught New England in the act in 2006 but never took the complaint further. Belichick was believed to be taping opponents when Mangini was a member of the Patriots’ defensive staff under Belichick between 2000 and 2005.

The N.F.L. fined Belichik $500,000 and the team $250,000 and took away a first-round pick in the 2008 draft.

But the Patriots and Belichick lost more than money. New England lost some of its luster as a first-class organization. While no one doubts Belichick’s coaching genius, he lost a measure of respect for violating the sanctity of sportsmanship and the integrity of competition.

Belichick also sent a troubling message to his protégés.

One of them, Mangini, reacted by turning in his old boss. But another, Josh McDaniels, was caught in the ambition trap — perhaps as Belichick was.

Last month the N.F.L. fined McDaniels, the Denver Broncos’ head coach, $50,000, and the franchise another $50,000 when it learned the team’s director of video operations had recorded six minutes of the San Francisco 49ers’ walk-through the day before the two teams met in London on Oct. 31.

The employee was Steve Scarnecchia, identified by the N.F.L. as one of those who made improper videotapes while employed by the Patriots. McDaniels was a member of Belichick’s staff during the Super Bowl years; so was Scarnecchia.

Why would McDaniels hire Scarnecchia? Did he do it out of loyalty, or because he felt he needed the sort of edge that Scarnecchia could provide?

McDaniels said he never watched the tape and the N.F.L. said it believed him. McDaniels was fined because he did not immediately report Scarnecchia to Broncos executives. Why were the Patriots fined $750,000 in 2007 and stripped of a draft pick and Denver only $50,000?

In explaining the differences in the fines in a recent conference call, the N.F.L.’s general counsel, Jeff Pash, offered a chilling indictment of the Patriots. He said the league believed the Denver episode was isolated and perpetrated by a single person who did not receive direction from a superior.

“You have a single incident as opposed to years of activity,” Pash said.

Years of activity.

On the other hand, New England has not won a championship since the Jets turned Belichick in for cheating. Is this a coincidence? Or in a league in which winning and losing hang by such a slender thread, can the loss of a camera be the difference between them? The Patriots lost the Super Bowl to the Giants by the narrowest of margins, just as they had won their three Super Bowls by a combined 9 points.

The unanswered question is what level of conceit or insecurity prompted Belichick to cheat. We may only know that when Belichick writes the ultimate autobiography. Meanwhile, we continue to refer to Belichick as a genius, and one of the great coaches in N.F.L. history.

New England will not be defined by the spying fiasco. The Patriots don’t need to win another championship to validate themselves, nor does Belichick. He has three Super Bowl rings as validation.

But Spygate left a stain that will not be washed away by victories and even championships.

Uncle Rico · 12-07-2010, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karguy85

Here is Rhoden's article. Posting it here so he can't get away from his lack of professionalism. You can write anything you want, but don't pretend you never wrote it.

This was an odd one -- I saw it online yesterday and it made no sense; no context and the "Patriots in retrograde" thing was bizarre. Between it being taken down yesterday then re-appearing with a topper about last night's game, makes me think this was posted by accident. Only guessing, but it's as if someone wrote some background material anticipating a Jets win and it got posted in error. Still, it's bizarre - -even if the Pats had lost it would have been hard to writ of them being in decline. Says a lot about the guy's thought process.

karguy85 · 12-07-2010, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

This was an odd one -- I saw it online yesterday and it made no sense; no context and the "Patriots in retrograde" thing was bizarre. Between it being taken down yesterday then re-appearing with a topper about last night's game, makes me think this was posted by accident. Only guessing, but it's as if someone wrote some background material anticipating a Jets win and it got posted in error. Still, it's bizarre - -even if the Pats had lost it would have been hard to writ of them being in decline. Says a lot about the guy's thought process.

I don't know that it was posted in error. I guess he was just embarrassed to have written such a baseless article. They also disabled all comments so nobody can call him out any further...