Mangini lied: Pats never gave Jets permission to videotape - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

***Arrrr*** · 12-13-2007, 09:07 PM

wow, this is huge if true. Not the least bit surprising considering where Mangini comes from though.

VJCPatriot · 12-13-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PonyExpress

The NFL said it was legal for a team to tape from the endzone provided the home team grants permission. They never commented on the ramifications if such permission was not granted. It was not.

Exactly the issue here. IF the permission was never granted... what would the NFL's position be then? I'm not surprised at all that Mangini lied about it. He's obviously trying to cover his ass. Hopefully the little rat drowns in his own lies and the Jets have to face at least a token penalty.

PonyExpress · 12-13-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JDP111

Listen, you need to, as you say, move along. The Patriots, may or may not have cheated; regardless, they broke a rule, and were penalized. You sound like a woman fighting for custody, or child support. Enjoy the friggin' season, and the Patriots, for all intensive purposes, may have hedged their bet. You don't know, nor do I. LET IT GO. Leave it to the whiners. Are you a whiner?

SMEARED?? WHO THE F CARES!!!

I didn't bother to read your post. I saw your name and knew it would be stupid.

groundgame · 12-13-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JDP111

a.) A "Patriots source?" C'mon, that's shoddy journalism. I'll leave it at that.
b.) WHO CARES!?!?!?!?!?!? The Jets could put a camera inside the Patriots' huddle and they would still have a tough time against this Patriots team.

A. Don't call it shoddy journalism until it is disproven.
B. Who Cares? Don't you want to see all the facts, as every media outlet in the U.S. clamored for it when it was the Patriots painted into a corner? You don't care now unless your telephone # is in the 212 area code.

JDP111 · 12-13-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriotic

The NFL. They take away first round picks for video indescretions.

The Patriots misunderstood the rules and were penalized. Black and white.

JDP111 · 12-13-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by groundgame

A. Don't call it shoddy journalism until it is disproven.
B. Who Cares? Don't you want to see all the facts, as every media outlet in the U.S. clamored for it when it was the Patriots painted into a corner? You don't care now unless your telephone # is in the 202 area code.

It's shoddy journalism because he doesn't name a source. He's not Peter Gammons. Name your source or don't print it.

Pujo · 12-13-2007, 09:11 PM

As much as I'm past caring about anything camera-related, I do think this is interesting if it's true. The one thing I do find alarming is that all of you journalism critics would take "a Patriots source" for face value. Would you give the same trust to an anonymous "Jets source"?

JDP111 · 12-13-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by groundgame

A. Don't call it shoddy journalism until it is disproven.
B. Who Cares? Don't you want to see all the facts, as every media outlet in the U.S. clamored for it when it was the Patriots painted into a corner? You don't care now unless your telephone # is in the 212 area code.

202? Washington D.C.?

JDP111 · 12-13-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pujo

As much as I'm past caring about anything camera-related, I do think this is interesting if it's true. The one thing I do find alarming is that all of you journalism critics would take "a Patriots source" for face value. Would you give the same trust to an anonymous "Jets source"?

EXACTLY. This is why half the sports reporting world is a crock of crap.

groundgame · 12-13-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JDP111

It's shoddy journalism because he doesn't name a source. He's not Peter Gammons. Name your source or don't print it.

Your reasoning to my response is shoddy, not the Bill Burt article.