Now who do we think should be Pro Bowlers? - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

***Dragda*** · 12-10-2007, 06:19 PM

All non-patriot players. I would love for them to have the honor/contract incentives, but I don't want them to have strokes or blow out knees as part of the wasted weekend festivities.

Let some other team's players go their instead.

In fact, I think I'll go vote for non-pat players just to cancel out some of your folks votes.

AVrabel50Fan · 12-10-2007, 06:35 PM

My votes -
Brady
Moss
Welker

Mankins
Light

Wilfork
Vrabel
Samuel

I know it doesn't mean anything, but I would love to see Vrabel go to the Pro Bowl, he is having an awesome year!

chris_in_sunnyvale · 12-10-2007, 06:49 PM

Obvious legit players, even to the casual NFL fan:
Brady (duh!)
Moss (double duh!)

Obvious legit players to the knowledgeable football fan:
Mankins (Best all-around guard in football)
Samuel (Nobody throws at him. Approaching Bailey-esque respect)

Legit player, not obvious, but arguable and probably will make it:
Koppen (Not best 1-on-1 blocker, but makes calls for best pass-blocking OL in the game)

Guy who may make it despite questionable play of late:
Light

Guys who have a solid case, but have stiff competition:
Wilfork (Hampton and Haynesworth have been better)
Vrabel (I'd imagine Bulluck and Harrison will beat him out, amongst others)

Guys who will definitely lose out due to lots of competition and reputations:
Welker (Moss, Edwards, Wayne, Chad Johnson & TJ Housh will all gets nods ahead of him)

Regards,
Chris

***AndyJohnson*** · 12-10-2007, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by National Sports Advisors

A lack of running plays is an indictment on the run-blocking? No. It's an indictment on the crappy RB we have. Matt Light's run-blocking was perfectly fine when Corey Dillon was running the ball in 2004.

First of all, not running the ball is a CREDIT to our passing game, which happens to be the best in NFL history.
Secondly, how can not running the ball be either about only the blocking or the running? If the Patriots are refusing to run (which they are not) it would be because of blocking more than the RB, because with good blocking, you can put another RB in there if you are unhappy with your RB, but cannot really replace your whole OL.

Ishdul · 12-10-2007, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by National Sports Advisors

A lack of running plays is an indictment on the run-blocking? No. It's an indictment on the crappy RB we have. Matt Light's run-blocking was perfectly fine when Corey Dillon was running the ball in 2004.

What about in 2005 with Dillon? 2006?

Our run blocking is not good, especially when compared to our pass blocking.

Anyways, I give my vote to Brady, Moss, Mankins, Koppen, Wilfork, Vrabel and Samuel.

5 Rings for Brady!! · 12-10-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Remix 6

Brady
Moss
Mankins

Wilfork
Vrabel
Samuel

i thought Koppen deserved it earlier..but it sort of dropped
i thought Warren deserved it but hes not getting the pressure he got last year. him and Seymour are basically being single blocked..held at times but hes not as impressive as last year. Wilfork is dominating. 2 years ago..it was Seymour..last year..Warren..now its Wilfork. Vince is a beast in middle.

other considerations would be Welker as a returnman but hes not our KR guy..does PR but i think Washington/Cribbs/Parrish are all doing better

Harrison i would consider but hes not allowed am i right because the suspension? hes played great imo but guys like Rhodes/Reed/Polamalu/Sanders are all playing well when on the field

I also wanted to mention Koppen. Not the most imposing guy out there, but good at his job and smart. For the homer vote I would put Welker out there, and Warren as well.

Not Matt Light. But he seems to be going anyway, so my vote won't matter. I think of him as a great candidate for right tackle, but a slightly above average left tackle. If he goes, I wish him the best. After all, I would rather see all Patriots at the pro-bowl anyway.

Fencer · 12-10-2007, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris_in_sunnyvale

Guys who have a solid case, but have stiff competition:
Wilfork (Hampton and Haynesworth have been better

Ack. You're right.

Demote Wilfork to Homer list.

jbb9s · 12-11-2007, 12:01 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the Pats fielded more offensive pro-bowlers in the Pete Carrol Era (specifically the year Kordell carved them up in the divisional game):

Bledsoe - QB
Martin - RB
Armstrong - LT
Glenn - WR
Gash - FB
Coates - TE

Disco Volante · 12-11-2007, 12:14 AM

Man it's going to be awesome if Chris Hanson makes the Pro Bowl.

ayjackson · 12-11-2007, 12:55 AM

Brady
Moss
Welker
Mankins

Samuel
Vrabel

on the fence: Wilfork