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Old 12-04-2007, 07:29 AM   #1
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i really think they're whining and not taking responsibility FOR THEIR ACTIONS is a big factor in them having such a disappointing season. i mean they called the timeout, no one else, how is that the officials fault? their guy did hold watson right in the middle of the middle field in front officials. what are these clowns talking about? officials gave them a complete freebie on offensive pass interference on the hail mary and THEY STILL LOST. and the fg in cleveland a few weeks ago was good too. how was that stiffing the ravens? etc etc etc etc these guys are losers in every sense of the word.

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Old 12-04-2007, 07:45 AM   #2
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It's why Billick will most likely lose his job, or they'll move a lot of the players.
Their situation is a lot like the Bengals. The coach doesn't control the team in either case.
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I expect a lot of fines to be levied against the Ravens this week. I've never heard a team go off on the officiating that badly. Some players might hint at it but the Nevermores were straight up calling the refs out.

I love the fact that they accuse the NFL of playing favorites with the Pats. Obviously they didn't see the Indy game.
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I just watched ESPN and the WHINING ravens players....WOW.....I have NEVER seen a bunch of grown men (boys....lol) whine so much!
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The fact remains they played their hearts out and let this one get away all by themselves. They may have a good defense, but zero discipline.
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The fact remains they played their hearts out and let this one get away all by themselves. They may have a good defense, but zero discipline.
Well said.

Pats fans may whine about officiating (who, us? ) but I've never heard Pats players behave the way the Ravens are behaving. Not even close.
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I expect a lot of fines to be levied against the Ravens this week. I've never heard a team go off on the officiating that badly. Some players might hint at it but the Nevermores were straight up calling the refs out.

I love the fact that they accuse the NFL of playing favorites with the Pats. Obviously they didn't see the Indy game.
Players can complain, as far as I know, only coahces and other team personnel can be fined for comments about the officiating. Now, throwing the flag into the stands is going to bring down a fine, and I wouldn't be surprised if the team fines a few players for going off on their coach.
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PENALTY on BLT-S.Rolle, Face Mask (15 Yards)
PENALTY on BLT, Defensive 12 On-field, 5 yards
PENALTY on BLT-T.Suggs, Defensive Offside, 4 yards
PENALTY on BLT-Q.Sypniewski, False Start, 5 yards
PENALTY on BLT-D.Martin, Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards


Didn't see this one (blocking out of bounds?) so can't comment.

PENALTY on BLT-C.Ivy, Defensive Holding, 5 yards
PENALTY on BLT-C.McAlister, Defensive Pass Interference, 3 yards


These were pretty clear and they stood out as the Pats were on a short field nearing the endzone.

PENALTY on BLT-D.Wilcox, False Start, 5 yards
PENALTY on BLT-S.Rolle, Illegal Contact, 5 yards


Brady had already scrambled for a 1st down so this wasn't a big call in the grand scheme of things.

PENALTY on BLT-J.Winborne, Defensive Holding, 5 yards

Both Watson and Gaffney were held on this play in plain sight of the officials. No way anyone should be complaining on this one.

PENALTY on BLT-B.Scott, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 15 yards
PENALTY on BLT-B.Scott, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 15 yards
PENALTY on BLT-E.Reed, Defensive Offside, 5 yards


Selfish, selfish, selfish. The Ravens were a big return from getting back into the game. I'm sure Scott feels like a man now and I guess that will have to get them through the season.

Gaffney's TD Catch

If that play was reversed on review, I would have turned on the whole idea of replay. The call on the field was correct (look at any sideline catch...the player always moves the ball from hands into their body). If they ruled that there was overwhelming evidence that Gaffney didn't have control of the ball, you would have to suspect that the ref was trying to control the outcome of the game. Besides, even if the ball was incomplete, the Pats had 3 downs and only 8 yards to go.

So where is the bias here? The Ravens got called for 13 penalties, only 5 of which required any judgement from the officials. The Pats got called for 6 penalties (4 accepted) and 5 of those required judgement from the officials. The Ravens gameplan was to rough up the Pats receivers, much like the Pats used to do before the "point of emphasis". The do have a point that these calls were made at key times and not consistently throughout the game...but they don't have any case that the penalties didn't happen.
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I saw the out of bounds penalty right away. If you Tivo it, you will see it, the Pats guy actually does a flip on the sideline he was hit so far out of bounds. I made that call from the couch. (without the sound)

How bout, the Ravens crying about the call on 4-6 (When Brady ran for it), they TACKLED MOSS!!!!!!!!! and they guy is like what, me????
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PENALTY on BLT-S.Rolle, Face Mask (15 Yards)
PENALTY on BLT, Defensive 12 On-field, 5 yards
PENALTY on BLT-T.Suggs, Defensive Offside, 4 yards
PENALTY on BLT-Q.Sypniewski, False Start, 5 yards
PENALTY on BLT-D.Martin, Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards


Didn't see this one (blocking out of bounds?) so can't comment.

PENALTY on BLT-C.Ivy, Defensive Holding, 5 yards
PENALTY on BLT-C.McAlister, Defensive Pass Interference, 3 yards


These were pretty clear and they stood out as the Pats were on a short field nearing the endzone.

PENALTY on BLT-D.Wilcox, False Start, 5 yards
PENALTY on BLT-S.Rolle, Illegal Contact, 5 yards


Brady had already scrambled for a 1st down so this wasn't a big call in the grand scheme of things.

PENALTY on BLT-J.Winborne, Defensive Holding, 5 yards

Both Watson and Gaffney were held on this play in plain sight of the officials. No way anyone should be complaining on this one.

PENALTY on BLT-B.Scott, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 15 yards
PENALTY on BLT-B.Scott, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 15 yards
PENALTY on BLT-E.Reed, Defensive Offside, 5 yards


Selfish, selfish, selfish. The Ravens were a big return from getting back into the game. I'm sure Scott feels like a man now and I guess that will have to get them through the season.

Gaffney's TD Catch

If that play was reversed on review, I would have turned on the whole idea of replay. The call on the field was correct (look at any sideline catch...the player always moves the ball from hands into their body). If they ruled that there was overwhelming evidence that Gaffney didn't have control of the ball, you would have to suspect that the ref was trying to control the outcome of the game. Besides, even if the ball was incomplete, the Pats had 3 downs and only 8 yards to go.

So where is the bias here? The Ravens got called for 13 penalties, only 5 of which required any judgement from the officials. The Pats got called for 6 penalties (4 accepted) and 5 of those required judgement from the officials. The Ravens gameplan was to rough up the Pats receivers, much like the Pats used to do before the "point of emphasis". The do have a point that these calls were made at key times and not consistently throughout the game...but they don't have any case that the penalties didn't happen.
no bias there. only bias i saw was no-call on offensive pass interference on ravens hail mary. that pass thrown 1 yard further and it would have cost us the game.
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