OT: Did the officials make a boo-boo in the Bills/Skins game? - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

Ethan 55 · 12-03-2007, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethan 55

I could be wrong, but I think this rule was in response to something the Patriots did a couple of years ago. I seem to remember Vrabel either calling a 2nd timeout or calling a timeout they didn't have on a FG attempt in an attempt to distract the other team. I think they changed the rule midseason that year to not allow it anymore.

And here's the link that confirms my memory...

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal..._of_the_trade/

godef · 12-03-2007, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobs My Uncle

Gibbs should be fired immediately for not knowing such a basic NFL rule. Having said that it is a stupid rule. The league should not dictate when and how a team uses their TO's. A team should be able to use any and all of their TO's anytime and under any circumstance that they wish. If that means calling TO's on 3 consecutive plays then so be it.

Well, then you get back to consecutive time outs not being allowed in general.

***Bobs My Uncle*** · 12-03-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by godef

Well, then you get back to consecutive time outs not being allowed in general.

A team should be allowed to decide when they wish to use their alloted TO's in a game. If they wish to use them all back to back to back then so be it.

Pats_AZ · 12-03-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobs My Uncle

Gibbs should be fired immediately for not knowing such a basic NFL rule. Having said that it is a stupid rule. The league should not dictate when and how a team uses their TO's. A team should be able to use any and all of their TO's anytime and under any circumstance that they wish. If that means calling TO's on 3 consecutive plays then so be it.

the problem is that apparently Gibbs asked a ref on the sidelines if he could call another timeout and the ref said that he could. Now i know people will be saying "but he should have known" but i feel that an officials job is to officiate and give correct rulings on the field and when a team seeks counsel in regards to a rule. it's like in golf, even the best players in the world don't know every rule, and quite frequently asks a rules official for help on a ruling and what can and can't be done. I feel that if Gibbs asked an official he should have either gotten the correct answer, or if given the wrong answer should not have been penalized for what he thought was in within the guidelines of the rules per the official. I feel that as many might still blame Gibbs, i blame the official.

***Bobs My Uncle*** · 12-03-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pats_AZ

the problem is that apparently Gibbs asked a ref on the sidelines if he could call another timeout and the ref said that he could. Now i know people will be saying "but he should have known" but i feel that an officials job is to officiate and give correct rulings on the field and when a team seeks counsel in regards to a rule. it's like in golf, even the best players in the world don't know every rule, and quite frequently asks a rules official for help on a ruling and what can and can't be done. I feel that if Gibbs asked an official he should have either gotten the correct answer, or if given the wrong answer should not have been penalized for what he thought was in within the guidelines of the rules per the official. I feel that as many might still blame Gibbs, i blame the official.

I hadn't heard that side of the story. Gibbs wasn't overly animated on the sideline after being penalized for calling the back to back TO's. You'd think he would have been going hysterical if he proceeded with the consecutive TO calls on the incorrect advice of an official.

Metaphors · 12-03-2007, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethan 55

And here's the link that confirms my memory...

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal..._of_the_trade/

The rule was changed in 2005 to make consecutive timeouts during a FG attempt unsportsmanlike conduct. Call it the "Vrabel Timeout Rule". You can add it to the "Law Coverage Point of Emphasis", the "Seymour Injury Reporting Enhancements", the "Moss Pushoff Focus" and the "Belichick Operating Procedures Memo".

I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin...