PatsRI

He was on ESPN's All Night with Jason Smith show at about 4:30am. They were talking about who wins MVP this year and they both had Brady winning it and Moss as 3 or 4. Anyway Smith asked Kiper if Favre had a shot and Kiper said he thought Brady was "on his way to being the best quarterback ever". Smith said "but I thought you said Elway was the best football player ever". Kiper comes back with "then I guess Brady is on his way to being the best football player ever". Smith was shocked and to be honest so was I. Smith said he would talk about what Kiper said on his show tomorrow morning (Fri 2-6am). I didn't know if anyone had heard Kiper say these things about Brady before.

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OnTheHeights

Wow. Incredible, but I still say that the title of "best football player of all time" belongs to one Jerry Rice. I'll have a hard time thinking of anyone else in that spot, even if it is Tom.

The Boston Patriot

Maybe at a 'skill' position, but hardly "best football player of all time". As much
as I hate the Steelers, some of those defenses had some pretty good players
and LT was no slouch either.

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betterthanthealternative

Yeah well, you want to talk about getting "an edge" that other teams didn't have, talk off the record to someone who was inside the league back then , and you'll hear about how those Steeler teams were at least 20% stronger than anyone else, all of a sudden. The accusation is that they ushered into the NFL the beginning of a new era in "sports medicine" that up to then had been practiced routinely only by the Russian and East German Olympic athletes.

ClevTrev

With no hard evidence, I prefer to listen to Kiper's comments over an attempt to debate about something that is not debatable.

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sieglo

I thought Jim Brown was the best football player ever.

DarrylS

He was, but times change as do memories, he was the best I have ever seen.. Brady is right up there with him and Jerry Rice.. difficult comparison, kinda like raisins and grapefruit.

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"Being the best doesn't mean you always win. It just means you win more than anyone else".. tweet from Kurt Warner to Tom Brady.

patchick

Think of the best raisin you've ever eaten, then the best grapefruit. No f-in comparison. I mean, who sits there saying "wow, this is one awesome raisin!"

I do think it's hard to compare QBs to other positions -- especially defensive players. Physically dominating in full-contact combat is simply an entirely different activity. Take a Lawrence Taylor, who combined speed, strength and pure ferocity. Scary, scary man to line up against. I feel fortunate to have watched a ton of Taylor, Rice and Brady. Never saw Jim Brown (though my mom was at Syracuse when he played there and has amazing memories).

Fencer

The most valuable football player ever is whoever the best quarterback ever is.

Whether he's AUTOMATICALLY the best football player ever is a matter of semantics. If you don't use the word "best" that way, then you probably don't want to anoint somebody whose rushing and blocking is as mediocre as Brady's as the best football player ever.

apricissimus

I don't think it makes sense to call one player "the best football player ever" since each position features such wildly varying skill sets. For instance, who's best in this bunch: Jim Brown, Jerry Rice, or Lawrence Taylor? It's comparing apples and oranges.

Now, if elite players still played multiple positions on a regular basis, and played those positions well maybe you could have an argument. But players at the highest lever (NFL) haven't done that for a long time.