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Patriot_in_NY · 11-28-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pats-blue

Maybe it is just me...but did it appear to anyone else that the entire Patriot team did not really have the "fire"????
I am not saying they were completely flat, but I did not see or is it sense because I am reaching that I did not see the same intensity in almost all the players....?

Not taking anything away fro the eggles....maybe the good play they brought to the game was what I was seeing and stretched it to the Pats "intensity" but I didn't think so. Did anybody see the same thing as me or was I too many rum and cokes into the game?

I agree with this..... Moss wasn't alone out there. There was some uncharecteristic bonehead plays out there. Light made a couple really bad penlties. Kazur got out classed. Gay had a bad game......... The list kinda goes on. It's gonna happen now and again. The mark of a good team is finding a way to win when you'er not playing your best ball. even more impressive is that philly was playing damn good ball.

NYCPatsFan · 11-29-2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevTrev

Ha Ha Ha, bring you the witches broomstick, right? Open your eyes and read some posts and some sports articles. It's not that hard, and if you swing a stick in a dark room, you're bound to hit some who feel any team giving the Pats a challenging game is an indication of a poorly played game by the Pats, because they are too good to be challenged. That, in it's purest form, is arrogance.

Well, I always have my eyes open when reading and hence find it difficult to believe your assertion because all the media reports that I read praised the Eagles.

Whereas, you claim that some - "mostly media members", in your words -(note that I never included the rants of the fans in this query) are not giving credit to the Eagles.

All I requested was a link to the media reports that you claim to have read so that I too can change my opinion if need be. Guess it is a bit difficult huh?

ClevTrev · 11-29-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NYCPatsFan

Well, I always have my eyes open when reading and hence find it difficult to believe your assertion because all the media reports that I read praised the Eagles.

Whereas, you claim that some - "mostly media members", in your words -(note that I never included the rants of the fans in this query) are not giving credit to the Eagles.

All I requested was a link to the media reports that you claim to have read so that I too can change my opinion if need be. Guess it is a bit difficult huh?

OK, let me clarify my statement, because I wasn't completely clear: When I stated "a minority of mostly media members," I was referring to comments by Jaworski, Felger, and others on TV and radio either stating directly or implying by their statements that the Pats or some player(s) were not playing well. Jaworski's comments are well documented on this message board; yet, I agree with his game assessment praising the Eagles efforts. I don't readily agree with his observation on Moss, as I don't believe he has all the information to make an accurate assessment.

Some in the local radio and TV media have not been as kind to the Eagles. As I stated, that was mostly a minority, and I did not read these types of statements in any game summary (print) article. The majority came from posters on multiple message boards assuming the closeness of the game was due to lack of effort by the Pats rather than a tremendous effort by the Eagles.

I stand by my statement about the arrogance exhibited by the examples referenced.

NYCPatsFan · 11-29-2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevTrev

OK, let me clarify my statement, because I wasn't completely clear: When I stated "a minority of mostly media members," I was referring to comments by Jaworski, Felger, and others on TV and radio either stating directly or implying by their statements that the Pats or some player(s) were not playing well. Jaworski's comments are well documented on this message board; yet, I agree with his game assessment praising the Eagles efforts. I don't readily agree with his observation on Moss, as I don't believe he has all the information to make an accurate assessment.

Some in the local radio and TV media have not been as kind to the Eagles. As I stated, that was mostly a minority, and I did not read these types of statements in any game summary (print) article. The majority came from posters on multiple message boards assuming the closeness of the game was due to lack of effort by the Pats rather than a tremendous effort by the Eagles.

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Thanks. I didn't know that the local radio/TV media were not kind to the Eagles. (I can't access the local ratio/TV in Boston and hence go by what I read in the other outlets but try to keep this forum as the main source of information for the Pats. But from what I read here - aren't a good % of the local guys anti-Pats??)

I was saluting the Eagles performance even during the game and greatly admired their performance. Based on what I saw/read on the TV after the game and other analysis (on national TV I guess), I thought everyone praised the Eagles gutsy performance. Hence my request to you when I read your post that some in the media were not giving credit to them.

And on Jaw's comments: I greatly respect his insight into the game but wish he had kept his mouth shut on Moss' performance on a game in which Moss was double-teamed and whacked around. As I mentioned in another related thread on the subject: why can't people give Moss the benefit of the doubt after how he has carried himself for the last ten games and monitor his performance for at least two games before coming to these grandoise conclusions and 'disappointment' on him?? Jeez...

ClevTrev · 11-29-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NYCPatsFan

Thanks. I didn't know that the local radio/TV media were not kind to the Eagles. (I can't access the local ratio/TV in Boston and hence go by what I read in the other outlets but try to keep this forum as the main source of information for the Pats. But from what I read here - aren't a good % of the local guys anti-Pats??)

As I said, it was a minority, and I'm based in No. VA with the New England sports package via DirecTV, so I get NESN, Comcast Sports NE, and Boston radio via the Internet. My take is that with so many sports-related programs and all radio & TV outlets competing for viewers, it can get pretty wild in terms of "editorializing to attract viewers." That being said, a few like Felger who is from Wisconsin but went to BU, are from out of the area. Yet, I'd hardly categorize them as anti-Pats as some of these guys depend on the team's success. Felger tends to embrace the contrarians role.

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Originally Posted by NYCPatsFan

I was saluting the Eagles performance even during the game and greatly admired their performance. Based on what I saw/read on the TV after the game and other analysis (on national TV I guess), I thought everyone praised the Eagles gutsy performance. Hence my request to you when I read your post that some in the media were not giving credit to them.

The vast majority of the media praised the Eagles' effort and game plan, rightly so.

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Originally Posted by NYCPatsFan

And on Jaw's comments: I greatly respect his insight into the game but wish he had kept his mouth shut on Moss' performance on a game in which Moss was double-teamed and whacked around. As I mentioned in another related thread on the subject: why can't people give Moss the benefit of the doubt after how he has carried himself for the last ten games and monitor his performance for at least two games before coming to these grandoise conclusions and 'disappointment' on him?? Jeez...

Agreed. His contributions to the team are noteworthy; yet, it appears some want to be the first to report on his "new" indiscretions.