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Fencer · 11-28-2007, 12:30 AM

Seymour had 8 sacks one season. But what I have no clue about is the mix on those between traditional outside rushes and downs he moved inside, etc.

Warren has become a decent rusher -- but yeah, it's tackle-level decent, not end-level decent.

Green is a perfectly competent rush end, I think.

But yeah -- Vrabel is probably the best rusher on the team.

pheenix11 · 11-28-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RayClay

Who are your two outside pass rushers? Also in the four three one of the ends has to cover sometimes, Seymour or Green? In most 4-3s all four of them would be tackles. Jarvis Green is closer to 300 lbs. than he is to the average pass rushing DE.

Jason Taykor 255 Dwight Freeney 268.

You have to think a line of Green, Warren, Wilfork and Seymour would wear the hell out of an offensive line and get a lot of pressure as well as stuff the run.

I can imagine these 4 playing 1 gap instead of 2 and just overpowering offensive lineman as they rush the passer. Yeah they would be slow, but the brute strength would be impressive.

RayClay · 11-28-2007, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pheenix11

You have to think a line of Green, Warren, Wilfork and Seymour would wear the hell out of an offensive line and get a lot of pressure as well as stuff the run.

I can imagine these 4 playing 1 gap instead of 2 and just overpowering offensive lineman as they rush the passer. Yeah they would be slow, but the brute strength would be impressive.

It's something to mix in there. The absolute loss of speed would be astonishing, though. Outside of Green, I can't see anyone beating anyone to the QB outside with a speed rush. It's got to be something an offense would exploit. Add a slow MLB and weakside LB (maybe Harrison, we don't have one).

I wouldn't mind seeing Jarvis play the elephant sometimes. 3 man line with shifting LBs.