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I'm not sure this uniformed nonsense needs a response, but since I tend to like our style of drafting, here goes.
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2006 - You are waaay off-base
We added four starting quality players to an excellent team.
Maroney may be mediocre, but he is a solid starter for an 11-0 team.
Thomas will be a starting TE. His injuried delayed his development.
Gostkowski will be one of the best. In anycase, he replaced AV with no
reduction in production.
O'Callaghan is capable of starting. It is GREAT that we having four
starting tackles.
We also added a solid backup and a STer
LeKevin can start as needed (the next Wright)
Andrews is an awesome STer and an OK backup safety.
Finally, we added a question mark
Chad Jackson may be nothing or he may be something; we shall see
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2007 - This was an aweful draft class - Let's see how we did. Personally I think we did as we always do. We have some immediate help and some longer term help.
We traded away picks yielding
Moss
Welker to a long tern contract
a 2008 SF first
a 2008 Oakland 3rd
We also have three maybe's
Meriweather, Lua and Richardson
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I'm not sure this uniformed nonsense needs a response, but since I tend to like our style of drafting, here goes.
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2006 - You are waaay off-base
We added four starting quality players to an excellent team.
Maroney may be mediocre, but he is a solid starter for an 11-0 team.
Thomas will be a starting TE. His injuried delayed his development.
Gostkowski will be one of the best. In anycase, he replaced AV with no
reduction in production.
O'Callaghan is capable of starting. It is GREAT that we having four
starting tackles.
We also added a solid backup and a STer
LeKevin can start as needed (the next Wright)
Andrews is an awesome STer and an OK backup safety.
Finally, we added a question mark
Chad Jackson may be nothing or he may be something; we shall see
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2007 - This was an aweful draft class - Let's see how we did. Personally I think we did as we always do. We have some immediate help and some longer term help.
We traded away picks yielding
Moss
Welker to a long tern contract
a 2008 SF first
a 2008 Oakland 3rd
We also have three maybe's
Meriweather, Lua and Richardson
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Excellent analysis. I started posting something similar and liked yours better.
Also, how can you possibly rate last year's draft already? It takes at least 2-3 years to get any reasonable guage on how good a draft REALLY was.
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There is some truth in the post even if it is put together in a troll-like manner. I don't agree with all of your evaluations, but if you had phrased things differently you would have gotten more people to digest what you were serving.
Maroney isn't bad. He's not as great as I would have hoped, but he isn't a bust.
I hold out slim hope for Jackson, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't pan out. We don't have a great track record for receivers.
I like David Thomas and Oscar Lua. Neither has proven themselves, but I think they will if they work for it.
I'm concerned that Merriweather seldom sees the field as a DB, but I am not writing him off. We have some pretty good players in front of him.
The rest are pretty much JAGS but I wouldn't call it horrible drafting. They basically traded out of last year's draft as they have so much talent now, they can't get fit many more players. We aren't drafting as well as Indy or Pittsburgh. But we aren't ruining the team with "horrible" drafts. We could do better.
pioli-belichick always had success drafting players... they seem to get impact players especially in the first and second rounds...
based on their success... im disappointed how the last 2 years turned out...
but im not giving up hope on our draft choices...
Is it possible for you to NOT be a complete knucklehead for just one day? Do you wake up in the morning and just think, how can I be even more of a knucklehead than yesterday? Noone's impressed with your schtick. And if you a day older than 12, Id be extremely dissppointed for you. Relax, man. There's more to life than annoying people on a message board.
Look at Mr. Pioli's superb drafts the last 2 years..........NOT!!! This guy is in a MAJOR SLUMP with our draft picks, my friends. It is Bobby Grier-esque!! We better keep trading draft picks away for the Randy Moss's and Wes Welker's of the world, because we will most likely draft STIFFS if we keep the picks!! You can make excuses all you want folks, but these last two drafts are HORRIBLE. Good thing we lost a #1 pick for spygate. Otherwise, we would just draft another guy that will make NO CONTRIBUTION whatsoever for the first 2 years of their career like Chad Jackson. Ugh!!
2006 NFL DRAFT
1 21 (21) Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota(DUD)
2 4-d (36) Chad Jackson, WR, Florida(BUST)
3 22 (86) David Thomas, TE, Texas(STIFF)
4 9-b (106) Garret Mills, TE, Tulsa(STIFF)
4 21 (118) Stephen Gostkowski, K, Memphis(GOOD)
5 3-c (136) Ryan O'Callaghan , OT, California(JAG)
6 22-* (191) Jeremy Mincey, OL/DE, Florida(STIFF)
6 36-* (205) Dan Stevenson, OL, Notre Dame(STIFF)
6 37 (206) Le Kevin Smith, NT, Nebraska(STIFF)
7 21 (209) Willie Andrews, CB/S, Baylor(JAG)
2007 NFL DRAFT
1 24 (24) Brandon Meriweather S Miami (FL)(JURY OUT)
4 28 (127) Kareem Brown DT Miami (FL)(CUT)
5* 34 (171) Clint Oldenburg OL Colorado State University(JAG)
6 6 (180) Justin Rogers DE Southern Methodist University(JAG)
6 28 (202) Mike Richardson CB Notre Dame(IR)
6* 34 (208) Justise Hairston RB Central Connecticut State(BUM)
6* 35 (209) Corey Hilliard T Oklahoma State(BUM)
7 1 (211) Oscar Lua ILB USC(BUM)
7* 37 (247) Mike Elgin OL University of Iowa(BUM)
For what it's worth, I pretty much agree with your assessment especially
with regard to the 2007 draft. Forgetting the trades, the Pats drafted nine players and only one remains on the 53 man roster. That is a pretty lousy
draft. By contrast, eight of nine draft choices made the Colts with one
on IR. Seven of ten players from 2008 made the team, but only three
players contribute on a regular basis (Maroney,Gostowski and Andrews). O'Callaghan is a backup, Jackson plays a little on special teams, Smith inactive, and Thomas on IR. Not super production from 2006.
The problem with a couple of below average drafts occur a few years
down the road. Who have the Pats drafted to replace Samuel, Gay, Seau,
Bruschi, Gaffney, Moss, and Stallworth should they leave the team?
The truth hurts. We are getting NOTHING out of either of these two drafts outside of a kicker and an AVERAGE running back. That is it. If that's ok with you guys, than MEDIOCRITY says hello in 2 years.
Alright, then. Hop of the wagon, see you after we win the supebowl.
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Hey, people can call me whatever they want. The same people waiting for these guys to emerge are the same crew that kept waiting for Bethel Johnson to emerge. These drafts are garbage.
Look in the mirror ....NOW you are predicting a nediocre team in two years....you are an idiot. Will you be around in ywo years so the Board can laugh at you??
Maybe Chad Jackson isn't doing so well because there are 4 established veteran receivers in front of him. Just a thought. I wouldn't worry so much about Maroney either. I have a feeling that in the end he'll work out for you just fine.
You have the cause and effect backwards here.
CJ isn't doing well because the are 4 vets in front of him: FALSE
There are 4 vets in front of him because CJ is not doing well: True
Re: Pioli's Last 2 Drafts have been Horrible!
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