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Old 11-27-2007, 01:47 PM   #21
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Cut Seymour and keep Asante. That's my new rallying cry!

Yeah that makes complete since cut a player that has made pro bowl because he is having a few tough games transtion FROM AN INJURY. I am offically changing your name to NST with the T for troll because in almost all of your posts you say negative things about the player the coaches or the other memebers of this fantastic site.

And in case you hadn't notice Seymour typically get double teamed (not this year yet i admit) and that almost always frees up other rushers.
and as for your new rallying cry we all know that will change as soon as Asante doesn't have a pick in a game.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:52 PM   #22
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Yeah that makes complete since cut a player that has made pro bowl because he is having a few tough games transtion FROM AN INJURY. I am offically changing your name to NST with the T for troll because in almost all of your posts you say negative things about the player the coaches or the other memebers of this fantastic site.

And in case you hadn't notice Seymour typically get double teamed (not this year yet i admit) and that almost always frees up other rushers.
and as for your new rallying cry we all know that will change as soon as Asante doesn't have a pick in a game.
You don't read all my posts then. I have absolutely NOTHING bad to say about a lot of players on this team. Brady, Moss, Light, Asante, Koppen, Welker, Stallworth, etc.... I have a problem with a few guys on this team that, in my opinion, are not earning their paychecks. Excuse me for calling it like it is.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:57 PM   #23
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You don't read all my posts then. I have absolutely NOTHING bad to say about a lot of players on this team. Brady, Moss, Light, Asante, Koppen, Welker, Stallworth, etc.... I have a problem with a few guys on this team that, in my opinion, are not earning their paychecks. Excuse me for calling it like it is.
So basiclly the players that are putting up the statstical numbers are good but the ones that don't have good numbers are bad. Your amount of football knowlegde staggers me
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:13 PM   #24
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hey, its not only us that see Seymour doing badly...its everyone....

he sucks now, and he has sacked the last few years...i dont know if its the money, i hope not, but i assume so....

hopefully when he comes back, hell be good....hopefully in the playoffs he can be good again...hopefully...

i dont want to wait until next year, i dont wanna have the pats let go of asante just to give seymour another yr to prove himself, being a 7yr pro....i dont think so...

if he continues this throughout the season, and BB knows its not due to injury, trade him
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:59 PM   #25
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Wow. Once again, somebody brings up a valid point and gets called a wannabe coach. Were we wrong when we questioned why the hell we brought in Monty Beisel and Chad Brown? Were we wrong when we thought Bethel Johnson was a BUST? Were we wrong when we thought Duane Starks was an awful acquisition? I know this may shock the grey hoodie wearers out there, but the great Bill Belichick does make mistakes and some players on this team do underperform and are OVERRATED. Seymour gets paid to be a DOMINANT defensive linemen. He does not get paid to be a non-factor. Jarvis Green can give us what Seymour gives us at a fraction of the cost. Cut Seymour and keep Asante. That's my new rallying cry!
If I felt there was enough knowledge of the game rather than statistics gawking and gut feel, I'd take this thread seriously; however, there can be a myriad of things going on with Seymour, and no one other than Seymour and BB really understand it. It appears that he is not contributing. Right, it appears he is still playing and playing a lot of minutes. BB does not play ineffective players a lot of minutes. Keep your new rallying cry. It suits you.
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:04 PM   #26
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If he wasn't doing his job Belichek would bench him. BB doesn't give two ****s about a player's rep he only cares about results. So as long as he is starting one must think Belichek is OK with that.
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:16 PM   #27
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Please refrain from slamming me,
What I find curious is that you presented a case built only upon tackles and sacks, and ignored everything else. What if he is being asked to hold the point of attack to make something open up for the LBs? What if he's being double teamed? What if a lot of stuff that don't translate to sacks or tackles?

What if that was the point of a 3-4 defense?

I do believe in the 3-4 defense you should see the LBs and safeties making most of the tackles and sacks. Since when does a NT or tackle make a bunch of sacks. Send him as a DE man up and he'll probably get you your sacks.

But if the coach says don't do that, I say don't do that. I believe the coach knows what he's doing. Don't you?
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:22 PM   #28
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so please don't jump all over me for bringing this up
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Excuse me for calling it like it is.
But what is "like it is"? I don't see Wilfork getting sacks. Don't you think that might have something to do with what he's being asked to do? So me saying that Wilfork is not getting sacks is "like it is" sounds a bit disingenous. If I cannot establish that Wilfork or Sey were being asked to penetrate against DTs, then I can't say that no sacks is "like it is".

Mostly like, on most plays, "like it is" is that they were not asked to penetrate or make the tackle.

I would assume this is the way it usually works in the 3-4 alignment. DT is not a glory position. Why try to turn it into one is my argument with the OP. The OP based his whole argument based upon what *HE* thinks Sey should be doing out there. I'm sorry, that is just too lame to take seriously.
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And, while we're on the topic, why the hell do we have to lose Asante Samuel and keep paying Seymour's overrated arse? Why can't we cut Seymour, pay Asante, and use our top 5 pick to draft a DE or DT? Jarvis Green is more than capable of filling in for Seymour as the starting DE. Does anyone honestly believe we need Seymour more than Asante? It's absurd.
Weren't you the fella who demanded we draft McFadden?
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