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Most of them are variants on the usual "Great guy, great leader" theme we know so well. But also:
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Joe Theismann, former NFL MVP and “NFL Network” analyst. Theismann believes that as an on-field signal-caller, Brady is the best the league has ever seen: “I believed that Joe Montana was the greatest quarterback to play the game. I think that Tom Brady is now. I think he’s the best quarterback who has ever played the game of football. What makes him special in my mind is that he and Peyton [Manning] have equal aptitudes — they are equally smart, they understand the offense, they know what they want to do, they prepare endlessly. All of the qualities you look for in someone who is going to be special.
“But I think Tom throws the football better than anybody in football. It’s a tighter spiral. He plays in outdoor conditions, not indoor conditions. Sixteen games, he could be in absolute garbage. Every stadium is an outdoor stadium in his division. When you’re in a dome environment, it’s a different thing. Peyton’s ball has a little bit of ‘ears’ on it from time to time. Joe’s ball had a little bit of ‘ears’ on it from time to time.
“I feel like as far as what separates him is his ability to purely throw the football. Joe Montana. Peyton Manning. The great quarterbacks like Dan Marino. John Elway. Brett Favre. You name all of them. I think the best pure thrower of the football is Tom Brady, and that’s why I give him the edge. If you were able to put those guys in a pool together, everybody is just great. They’re all Hall of Famers. They’re all special. They’re all unique. But what separates Tom from them is his ability to throw the football the way he throws it.”
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Re: Christopher Price got some interesting quotes re Brady
Not that I disagree, particularly about Brady's beautiful looking passes, but having Joe Theismann deliver the message does not inspire confidence.
I do think that one day, people will look back and realize Tom's greatness exceeds that of any other contemporary. No one likes a champion these days, until they become nostalgic. The accomplishments of Tom Brady and the Patriots will age very well, but for now, people, including fans on this board, are simply unable to appreciate it. It's unfortunate really.
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------------------ “On a day when they could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson..they took Georgia defensive tackle Richard Seymour, who had 1 sacks last season in the pass-happy SEC and is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where they could have gotten the last decent receiver in Robert Ferguson and settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon.”
Re: Christopher Price got some interesting quotes re Brady
OK Tommy Boy, time to have a Lights Out HOF game Sunday against the Vikes. Do it!
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Re: Christopher Price got some interesting quotes re Brady
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Originally Posted by Nikolai
Not that I disagree, particularly about Brady's beautiful looking passes, but having Joe Theismann deliver the message does not inspire confidence.
I do think that one day, people will look back and realize Tom's greatness exceeds that of any other contemporary. No one likes a champion these days, until they become nostalgic. The accomplishments of Tom Brady and the Patriots will age very well, but for now, people, including fans on this board, are simply unable to appreciate it. It's unfortunate really.
In baseball, there is a stat called ops+, which is on-base percentage plus slugging percentage taken into the context of that player's stadium, league, and era in which he played. Thus, suppose player A has an ops of .800 hitting in cavernous Petco Park in San Diego and player B has that same ops of .800 hitting in cozy Philadelphia. Player A's ops+ will actually be higher because it's harder to hit that well in San Diego.
I wish the NFL had a similar stat for QB. Obviously they have QB rating. No clue how they figure out QB rating, but it's one measure of a QB's effectiveness. However, it doesn't take into consideration the home stadium that the player plays in. So consider Manning vs. Brady. Imagine Brady playing almost all of his games in either a dome or in a warm weather city (like Jacksonville). Brady plays in the most northeast city in the NFL, where the weather is routinely awful, and two other teams in his division are also cold-weather, outdoor stadiums (Buffalo and the Jets). So he plays a *lot* more games in bad weather than Manning does.
So if they had similar QB ratings but Brady is playing in the equivalent of Petco Park while Manning is playing in the equivalent of Citizens' Bank Park (Philly), then those QB ratings are not equal.
I wish someone would come up with a QB rating + stat. It would be really helpful.
Re: Christopher Price got some interesting quotes re Brady
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I wish someone would come up with a QB rating + stat. It would be really helpful.
That's really interesting stuff. It would be a tough stat to keep since football crosses two seasons and begins and ends in drastically different weather (in the northern states). It would make for some pretty crazy math. I absolutely agree with your premise though.
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One of the great things about this video is that it completely disproves the utterly asinine notion that Brady was incapable of throwing the long ball before Moss arrived.
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------------------ “On a day when they could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson..they took Georgia defensive tackle Richard Seymour, who had 1 sacks last season in the pass-happy SEC and is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where they could have gotten the last decent receiver in Robert Ferguson and settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon.”
Re: Christopher Price got some interesting quotes re Brady
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Originally Posted by Nikolai
One of the great things about this video is that it completely disproves the utterly asinine notion that Brady was incapable of throwing the long ball before Moss arrived.
Brady actually had better success in 2004 throwing the long ball than he did with Moss here... How's that for scary...