Bostonian1962

All of the Patriots that were on the list, haven't come up yet. That's good news, because we want to see them as close to Number 1 as possible.

RhodyPatriot

Who gives a rats a&^?
Mossy didn't set any reception records last Sunday did he??

PatsSox363804

Am I the only one that thought that both of those passes into double coverage against the Dolphins get picked if they happen today? 2007 was awesome but they really need to stop trying to recapture it with passes like that, as we saw this past Sunday.

dryheat44

Exactly. The NFL didn't begin in 1984, and the top receivers of all time aren't Rice, Moss, Owens, Harrison, Irvin, Tim Brown, Cris Carter, Torry Holt, Chad Johnson, etc.

Raymond Berry and Don Hutson will certainly be there. Lance Alworth possibly. Harold Carmichael. Largent. Fred Biletnikoff, Paul Warfield, Don Maynard, Bob Hayes....

The game has changed to a more passing one, but that doesn't mean the old guys were all worse than the new guys.

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WelshPat

I hate lists like these exactly because of all those old players named in the last post. How many people have seen them play? How do we know how great they are?

I've seen a lot of people say that Lynn Swan is over rated for example. Unless you saw him, how do you know? In his highlights, he looks great.

But you just know that the top 10 is going to full of old time players, like #1 will probably be Dick Butkus just because of the mystique, even though there have been more complete LBs (Ditkus couldn't cover, for example). Yet, just to show how inconsistant a lot of people are in these things, they will point to superbowl rings as a stat, yet Butkus will finish highly yet he was never on a team with a winning record. Or they will go with someone like Red Grange, sigh.

Trust me, if you had Randy Moss or Steve Largent for say, 2 months and were asked to pick a player, everyone would pick Moss.

Sivy

I know there is a lot of "ifs" in the game..but IF Moss and Brady played together since jump, Rice and Manning wouldnt even be in the disscussion.

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dryheat44

Of course they would. Many here likely have never seen Largent play, and of course he's white, so he gets the melanin-free discount too. Personally, I think Moss is clearly #2 ever, but the other guys are in the conversation.

When Largent was playing, he was pretty much the consensus #2/3 WR in the league...for virtually his entire career. He played like a better Cris Carter...he could always get open, and his hands were outstanding. Except he was as good in between the 10s as he was in the goal-line area, and he was always his team's #1 threat. Teams would design their game plan around him, but they still couldn't stop him. When he retired he held every major NFL receiving record. In 1996 when the Sporting News did a top 100 of all time, he was ranked in the top 50.

It's not unlike the conversations I have with younger co-workers, who think the greatest CDs of all time all come from the Puff Daddy/Britney Spears/50 Cent/Eminem/Lady Gaga/Kelly Clarkson era.

I mentioned that I saw a Rush show last weekend and a grand total of 0 knew whom I was referring to.

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Sivy

Just because things are old, does not mean they are the greatest of all time.

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dryheat44

It doesn't mean they're not either. It's kind of a silly statement. Just because things are new, does not mean they are the greatest of all time. I'm not here arguing that Babe Parilli was a better QB than Tom Brady, My 3 Sons was a better TV show than the Simpsons, Martha Washington was hotter than Sophia Bush, or Sodom was a better place to live than San Diego.

Rice is the best WR of all time, and there's really not a cohesive argument to be made against. It's my opinion that he's the best football player of all time, regardless of position.

But when someone wonders which receivers might be on the list ahead of him, and the list of candidates is Owens, Harrison, Tim Brown, and Chris Carter...well, let's say that it shows an unreasonable bias towards the current era.

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jimmyjames

Loved watching Randall Cunnigham throw the ball in this video. God what a sling for an arm he had.