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Old 11-08-2007, 06:03 PM   #1
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Ummm, no.


I've seen a few people say something along these lines, including dumbass Peter King. We're still losing a 1st rounder, people. I don't care if we get the #1 overall from SF, we could've had #1 AND #32.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:06 PM   #2
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I agree with you, but even still there's nothing wrong with putting a positive spin on the situation. The Patriots' original 1st rounder is gone and it's not coming back. Nothing you can do about it. But it is important to note that the Patriots could still make a splash in the 1st round thanks to the SF pick.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:09 PM   #3
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Ummm, no.


I've seen a few people say something along these lines, including dumbass Peter King. We're still losing a 1st rounder, people. I don't care if we get the #1 overall from SF, we could've had #1 AND #32.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:36 PM   #4
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I have hopes the patriots will challenge the Goodell decision in the offseason but don't want to create a distraction during the season.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:38 PM   #5
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(Mods - might want to merge this with the other thread about the 2008 draft)

I don't think anyone's actually suggesting we're making up a pick...

I'd guess they are remarking about the fact that when the season started, most predicted SF to be a contender.

Their pick was looking like it could well be in the 20s...let's say they did a little worse than expected and it was an 18th pick. That's a draft value of 900.

Add that to the Patriots expected #32 and you've got a draft value of 1490.

Right now a #5 pick from SF wouldn't surprise anyone.

That's a value of 1700

1700 is better than 1490.

Would I rather have a #32 pick too - of course? Do you think some wouldn't?

But thanks to San Fran we've got better value right now than everyone thought we would even with the Patriots hoped for #32.

So I think you probably missed the point that some were making in that BB could trade down and STILL have two very good #1 picks next season, in a way saying FU to Goodell and the rest of the league.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:57 PM   #6
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I'll just pretend we traded our 1st round pick last year for Randy Moss. Is there anyone that doesn't do this knowing what they know now? I would probably trade both picks for him, knowing what I know now.
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The fact is, that since the Pats traded a first rounder in 07 for a first rounder in 08, it wasn't a fair trade to begin with. Deferred compensation needs to be devalued by one round. But since SF is doing so badly, trading a 20 something pick for a top 10 pick the following year is actually more along the lines of a favorable trade.

Also, remember that the Pats traded their 2nd #1 because they had an extra for Deion Branch. Another case of deferred compensation - this time a player for a pick the next year. Waiving that piece of paper around during the AFCCG doesn't really help Alexander cover Clark any better does it?

In theory once you get the ball rolling - always have 2 #1s and always trade the latter of them for a #1 the following year - you get two chances to get a great pick and then defer the other pick for two chances the following year. This brilliant scheme is hard to get going again without the lead domino (i.e. Drew Bledsoe, Deion Branch).
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:44 PM   #9
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Its Karma.

The reason why the Niners suck and why our pick is getting more valuable every day is because the NFL screwed with the Pats.

The universe is giving us back what was stolen from us. Be grateful and have a laugh at the expense of that prick Goodell.
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Its Karma.

The reason why the Niners suck and why our pick is getting more valuable every day is because the NFL screwed with the Pats.

The universe is giving us back what was stolen from us. Be grateful and have a laugh at the expense of that prick Goodell.
If it's Karma, what's in it for the Niners? Or are they just getting Karma back for their 1980's run?
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