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Old 11-05-2007, 10:58 AM   #1
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Sitting around with my buddies yesterday, watching the game, drinking beer, playing poker, and screaming at the 50" Plasma, we couldn't help but notice how bad the Pats tackle. Some of us came to the conclusion that the age in our linebacking core is the reason why. That the half step some of them have lost makes for an arm on the ball carrier as opposed to a shoulder. Thankfully the defense made some plays when it mattered, but the tackling seemed a little suspect to us. Of course, that might have been due to all the beer.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:00 AM   #2
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In the first 1/2, YES.
The cleaned it up, but still have work to do IMHO.
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Sitting around with my buddies yesterday, watching the game, drinking beer, playing poker, and screaming at the 50" Plasma, we couldn't help but notice how bad the Pats tackle. Some of us came to the conclusion that the age in our linebacking core is the reason why. That the half step some of them have lost makes for an arm on the ball carrier as opposed to a shoulder. Thankfully the defense made some plays when it mattered, but the tackling seemed a little suspect to us. Of course, that might have been due to all the beer.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:19 AM   #4
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in the first half, the pats played nickle and were getting eaten up in the running game. I think they out tricked themselves in the beginning of the game on offense and defense. They play so well in the 3-4 I think they should have stayed in it. The Colts ran at Harrison alot IMO and he couldn't consistently set the edge.

On offense the pats should have started the game with how they ended it. A TE, RB, ande 3wr set.

I thought they got too fancy.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:25 AM   #5
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I think they are a poor tackling team. And the good news is, they weren't always. So I think they can iron it out over the bye.

Richard Seymour said this morning alot of the big plays they actually were in position and just didn't tackle well. So they're aware of it.

I think even if we do nothing, it won't matter until we play the Colts again. The Colts defense is a good 1/2 step faster than any other NFL team, and that's the difference between us putting up 50 and us barely breaking 20.

It's still a great time to be a Pats fan.
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tackling has been the major problem on D the whole year. We've been where we need to..we dont finish the play and we dont swarm as a team.

When we tackle well...we are hands down the best D

And not to start another thread but Hobbs needs to step it up in passing game and run game especially. Pass game, when he tries to jam..WR gets a good release 75% of the time and hes left trailing. He played well overall yesterday but he cannot tackle..he gets pushed around and he gives up big gains kind of often
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We seem to have trouble wrapping guys up at times, lets not even go back to Barber in the endzone a few weeks ago.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:36 AM   #8
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I'm not sure I would say we're a "poor" tackling team, in that I don't think we're in the bottom half of the league or anything.

But to agree with what others are saying, I'd say it's an area -- if not the area -- where we could most use defensive improvement.

That said, I can remember some absolutely stellar open field tackles the team has made this year. I also think when a team is playing with a big lead, you don't often see the same intensity on defense as you might when the game is tight, and that often reveals itself first in the tackling.

The first half of this game and the first half of the Buffalo game were some examples of bad tackling. But I don't think you can really draw anything meaningful from the second halves of the Miami or Redskins games.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:38 AM   #9
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I think the Pats aren't always a poor tackling team, and as a matter of fact, one of the things I like about Samuel, and one of the reasons I was hoping they would resign him, is that he is a VERY good tackler, really wraps up well.

I think they'll work on it, because yesterday they REALLY didn't tackle well. I figure it's one big piece of pie BB will be serving over the layoff.
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I don't doubt that they will work hard to become, and probably succeed at becoming, a better tackling team, but the only answer to this question right now is a DEFINITE "YES."
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