chunkypony

Sorry, the previous poster misspoke

the football has to cross the plane of the goal line and the reciever has to have clear control of the ball, meaning he makes two steps, and then retain posession. The receiver cannot lose control of the football, whether it is by the ground or by Asante Samuel's stellar performance, outshining the highly touted Bob "I make one play a game and flex for the rest of the day after I do it, until I get beaten badly by Wes Welker for a Touchdown" Sanders

Fixit

Control/complete pass vs. non-control/incomplete pass.

Big difference, there. Both calls were absolutely correct.

KCSVEN

I remember that play(The Wayne play out of bounds on the sideline) and DVR'd it at the time, he actually rolled over with control and as he got up flipped the ball to the ground, that was a definate catch though live I thought the same thing you did but when I played it back you could see he didn't lose control he flipped it himself after making the catch

Grogan's neck roll

In the Faulk TD he RAN it into the EZ, (about 10 yards after he caught it), what I said about the nose of the football touching the goal line is correct, it's a TD. I was absolutely NOT misspeak.

Gonzalez never put his catch away, never completed the catch, therefore, incomplete pass.

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Lampshade

Yeah it definitely popped out. He rolled into someone on the sideline, and the ball ends up lying on the other guy's foot.

edit: FWIW I definitely don't see him flipping it.

Grogan's neck roll

In the Faulk TD he RAN it into the EZ, (about 10 yards after he caught it), what I said about the nose of the football touching the goal line in player possession is correct, it's a TD. I absolutely did NOT misspeak.

Gonzalez never put his catch away, never completed the catch, therefore, incomplete pass.

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Horace Ivory

I remember that play as well. Hobbs immediately was waving off the catch after Wayne went out of bounds as if he bobbled it when he went to the ground. I think they quickly replayed it but I couldn't tell if he dropped it or not. Will have to check again when I get back home. I wondered about it at the time though.

chunkypony

dude. relax. I was being sarcastic. We're on the same team. I know you didn't misspeak, but the Colts troll was making it seem like you did. Chill man, we won yesterday.

speed

Wow that's a long middle name!

I liked Tom "I pose like Derrick Zoolander with farm animals and scream in the face of an old man referee trying to spot the ball for a knell down cuz my feelings were hurt, Dating models is only a beard" Brady, I thought he had a good game.

Two questions, why do the refs hate the Pats so much and why would the league allow such poor or outright criminal officiating? Doesn't the league have more to lose by cheating the Pats?

Secondly, do most Pat fans complain this much after a victory or is it just the few I'm reading here. Wow to read these pages the Pats didn't get one call.

Anyway, it was a good game, great comeback by the Pats, I seriously thought it was over. I hope they do meet again in the playoffs and I actually hope its in Foxboro, adds to the drama.

To me, it adds to the greatness of a team when you have an opponent you have to overcome who is close to your equal. I think history judges these teams to be the truely great.

speed

Exactly, see you in January.