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View Poll Results: Should women be more encouraged to like football?
I'd love to see more women get into becoming football fans
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62.93%
Football is a "guy thing" and I like it that way
15
12.93%
I'm a woman and I love football
22
18.97%
I'm a woman and I'd like football if I could understand it
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0%
Women have baseball, why do they need football?
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0.86%
I'm gay/lesbian/bisexual/hermaphrodite and find this poll irrelevant
To those of you who voted that Football should just be a man thing, and who weren't joking ( I suspect most of the votes were tongue in cheek), I defy you to go head to head with the likes of patchick and the other women on this board. I reckon they will kick your arses in terms of their football knowledge.
That's fine, but men still want to see and hear MEN host & discuss all the weekly football recaps. I watched and listened to a female host on the NFL network this week as she questioned Tyrrell Davis and it just didn't seem natural. I enjoy talking football with women but I always feel I have an edge since I played the game for years. Anyone can understand stats and read up on strategy, but the only way to understand the physical aspects of the game is to have played it.
I think female reporters work on delivering stories as background leading up to the game but in a round-table discussion on gameday or NFL today, I need to hear men getting me pumped up for the games.
As a matter of fact, I don't think women are right for baseball play-by-play either..."There's a LONG DRIVE....way back...WAY BACK...GONE!" must be delivered by a male voice.
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Baseball is very easy to pick up, considering the primary focus of the game is pitcher vs. batter. The bare essence of football - trying to march down the field in sets of 10+ yards within 4 downs/set - is something most people can grasp the first time they watch a game on TV, especially with the yellow first-down line (the best innovation in TV sports viewing ever). However, how teams go about getting those 10+ yards is something that takes a long time for most newbies to truly appreciate. That appreciation requires a deeper interest in the game that perhaps more guys than women are willing to invest, on average.
Here are two examples:
1. Baseball - Last night Papelbon comes in to throw some heat in order to mow down the Rockies. My wife knows he's the hard-throwing closer who is going to throw as hard as he can and dare the Rockies batters to hit it. She knows subtleties like wasting pitches in attempts to get guys to chase 0-2 pitches off the plate, but those subtleties are not deep anyway. Papelbon basically does his straightforward job and that's that. Easy to understand.
2. Football - Pats/Cowboys. Pats run on 1st down. Pats run on 2nd down. Brady scrambles on 3rd down for a 1st down. Brady fakes the handoff, safety bites on the fake, Brady steps into the pocket and throws a dart to a single-covered Stallworth for a 69yd TD. Any casual Pats fan can cheer the TD, but only a football strategist truly appreciates how that TD was set up by the prior running plays, causing the safety to bite on the run-fake and leaving the middle of the field open for Donte. The strategy is worth cheering as well as the TD. There are other times in the game when good strategy is excuted perfectly that doesn't result in a score, so the casual fan is left saying something like, "good play" while the serious fan is clapping, "Great play, guys!"
I have to say, I don't like hearing women do play by play or football analysis either. However, nor do I like the commentary of most men...basically I think 95% of them are not very good commentators or they don't know what they are talking about.
There's plenty I don't know about the game of football (like Xs and Os) and that comes from not having played it. But I've been watching this sport for 20+ years. I have stories upon stories of men underestimating me when it comes time to discuss the football games.
I am no fun to watch a game with. I am a screamer, a curser and I let my mood be dictated by what happens on the field. I treat almost all fans of other teams with contempt and ridicule.
But yeah, what's with the baseball spitting? I swear, Terry Francona looks exactly the same in every game I've ever seen. He just stares and spits. Stares and spits. You could splice film of him from one game into every other game the Sox every play and no one would know the difference.
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But yeah, what's with the baseball spitting? I swear, Terry Francona looks exactly the same in every game I've ever seen. He just stares and spits. Stares and spits. You could splice film of him from one game into every other game the Sox every play and no one would know the difference.
Chewing tobacco in all liklihood. That's where the idea for "big league chew" gum came from. Its even shredded like chewing tobacco.
I have to say, I don't like hearing women do play by play or football analysis either. However, nor do I like the commentary of most men...basically I think 95% of them are not very good commentators or they don't know what they are talking about.
There's plenty I don't know about the game of football (like Xs and Os) and that comes from not having played it. But I've been watching this sport for 20+ years. I have stories upon stories of men underestimating me when it comes time to discuss the football games.
Great post, Bella. There are lots of threads I read, but don't post in, because having never played the game it does take longer to learn the intricacies of plays, coaching, etc. But, I soak it all up - and crave more.
Those who said it comes from being nurtured in childhood probably have a point, but it wasn't that way for me. I remember my dad & uncle taking my brother and male cousins to a Giants game every year. I could have cared less. It wasn't until I was an adult that I discovered the game on my own. Yeah, I read Football for Dummies ... and about eight other books. I watch the shows and study the recaps. I read just about every thread on these boards. I've spent more than my share on Patriots products, and trek faithfully to Gillette every year. I haven't missed a game on TV in 11 years. I make cupcakes for my kids (I teach) before every game and put player numbers on them. Bottom line, I'm a fan just like every other member of this board - male and female. Like some of the others, I have no time for baseball - too slow, too much down time, too....straightforward. But break down a good screen play for me and I'm yours
My wife's a Bills fan transplant who has embraced the Pats but not fully. when the Bills and Pats play, she's a Bills fan. I tell her she's not a fan of either team...drives her nuts,,,that's my job, though. Typical chick. Can't make up her mind, but she's rediculously hot and sweet, so I let it slide.
My daughters will both be Pats fans. No Bills crap allowed in the house except for my wife's personal foul, stupid-looking Buffalo crap.
Suzie Colbert is good commentator on the game. The only female comentator I can handle. She's also a cutie, which don't hurt. Jusk ask Broadway Joe.