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Old 09-15-2010, 11:22 AM   #11
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The lines are determined by money flow -- no more, no less.
Yup, that explained the obscene 20 point spreads we saw in 2007.....trying to get money on the other side..
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:24 AM   #12
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Danam (and some others ) is/are correct re the money line in Vegas,it represents what the masses believe will happen,which is often not based in reality.....and thats why the shrewd bettor can take advantage of the point spreads that are out of whack to make a few bucks.....once in a while,anyway!
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:27 AM   #13
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I don't think there's anything wrong with this line.

-Pats came into the season as a bubble playoff team, and little is known about Cincy.

-Pats were 8-0 at home and 2-6 on the road last season.

-Last season, despite Welker's absence, Jets 16, Pats 9, in NY.

-Jets defense, realistically, probably won't allow enough points for a blowout.

-Jets offense is at an all-time low. No way it can be any worse, unless INTs start piling up. Even then, they might be better off by at least going for yardage.

-Most of the time these teams play physical games which suggests low-scoring.

-Jets are expected to make the playoffs and have their backs against the wall. This is a desperation game, and they are at home, with the best D in the league.

That said, I wouldn't be shocked if the Pats won by 10-14 points, but I expect this game to end up closer to 17-14, although it will feel like a bigger margin because Jets offense will be inept when they need to pass.
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For what it's worth, immediately after the Jets' loss on Monday night, the line was the Pats getting 1 point.
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Game one might just as easily have been a Jet victory--despite all the penalties and inept offense. And historically these two clubs split the season series, no matter the seeming balance or imbalance in the two teams. A 2 point fave sounds pretty accurate to me
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IIRC the game started out with the Pats GETTING 1.5, if theyt are up1.5 that is 3pt move in the line which is a lot, if it get to 3 for an away game, very unusual.
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iam fine with it. everyone is reacting to 1game. for all the bad play by the jets they lost by 1 pt to a very good defensive team. We are not the same defense as balitmore and iam quite sure the jets wont gives 4-5 1st downs via penalties or by 1 of 11 on 3rd down vs us. LT will be able to run the ball on us and its going to be a very close game inspite of what people here think after monday night that we are going to crush them.

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And our coaching staff is not dumb enough to continue to run slow developing running plays into the teeth of that Jets run blitz either. It was a comedy of stupid playcalling. Run for nothing, run for half a yard, pass for a FD completion, or draw a PI FD. Repeat, and repeat, half way down the field until a dropped pass on 3rd down ruins the "drive".

The Baltimore Ravens dropped in my estimation as a SB contender. They should have been up 28-9, and would have been, if their coaches weren't completely stupid.
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Hmmmm... Vegas put the line to favor a NY team. Someone alert the media.

Fact of the matter is historically, NY teams get favorable odds in Vegas because they set the line on where they think the betting will go, not who will win. NYers tend to gamble in Vegas than most other places. NYC alne has more people in it than all of New England other than Massachusetts combined. NYC has more people in it than all of Massachusetts.

BTW, on a neutral field, the Pats would be favored by 1.5 points based on this line and if they were at home they would have been favored by 4.5 points based on this line.
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And our coaching staff is not dumb enough to continue to run slow developing running plays into the teeth of that Jets run blitz either. It was a comedy of stupid playcalling. Run for nothing, run for half a yard, pass for a FD completion, or draw a PI FD. Repeat, and repeat, half way down the field until a dropped pass on 3rd down ruins the "drive".

The Baltimore Ravens dropped in my estimation as a SB contender. They should have been up 28-9, and would have been, if their coaches weren't completely stupid.
Completely agree. The playcalling was terribly predictable.
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Pats are currently favored by 1.5, which seems absurdly low. I understand the preseason hype of the Jets affected their initial valuation, but coming off that impressive Pats' win and abysmal Jets' loss, you'd expect at least a 3 point line. Seems that Vegas wants Pats' money to come in. Hmmm.
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