Rob0729

Interesting note on Vilma being pulled in the Cincy game. Mangini said Vilma was struggling with some injuries and that is why he was pulled. Vilma says it wasn't injuries and it was a coaching decision and seemed to be upset about it.

He was probably taken out because Vilma is too small to be an ILB for a 3-4 especially in the Belichick defense and Mangini is too stubborn or not smart enough to switch to the 4-3. In the Belichick 3-4, size does matter.

Here are few gems from Vilma from NY Newsday:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/footba...,3691968.story

On a side note, Mangini just announced he is sticking with Pennington. I am sure that will go over well with the fans. They are turning on him worse than he turned on Belichick.

LoveDemPats

Tell me there are not a bunch of people getting ready to blow.

All_Around_Brown

This disaster unfolding before our eyes just to the south of us is really really fun to watch. The yanks dealt them a blow by folding under pressure and the jets simply stink to high heaven.

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Metaphors

I've always said that Jets' fans were revolting.

desi-patsfan

i still dont understand why he isnt switching to a 4-3. If you dont have the players for the 3-4...why play it?? What are you trying to prove? "If BB can do it so can i?"

PromisedLand

Maybe BB never taught widdle Ewic how to run a 4-3?

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Rob0729

Yeah, I think this is where Mangini's inexperience really is killing him. He has only coached in the Pats defense for a short time and never has had exposure to any other defense.

PromisedLand

Too bad. I can't think anyone I would rather see get his commupance than that scheming, treasonous, backstabbing little fraud.

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Crazyeechrispats1

Vilma is suited so much better for a 4-3 look for the jets to trade him this year for about a second or third round draft pick or maybe for a offensive lineman.
God knows they could use one of those.
But theres no team in the nfl I hate more than the Jets and this is just beautiful.
How much would you love to see Mangini get the boot and Marty schott getting the job as the jets hc.
I think their fans would cry.
Cause as fun as it is to see em lose to badly.
I'd rather see them just coming up a little too short that's more painful to stand.

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JDSal45

It really has nothing to do with 3-4 vs. 4-3. It has to do with being a 1-gap defense vs. a 2-gap defense. Even when the Pats run a 4-3, they still 2-gap. So do the Jets. That is the technique the Pats and BB believe in.

Vilma is more of a 1-gap type linebacker, better suited for a Chicago or Tampa or Indy type system. Switching to a 4-3 would do nothing as the Jets would still 2-gap.

The Jets have several players better suited to a 1-gap system left over from the Herm Edwards era (he is a 1-gapper). These include Vilma, Dwayne Robertson, Shaun Ellis, Bryan Thomas and several others. They don't really seem that adaptable, yet the Jets never traded them. They probably will after this season.

The Pats converted several guys who were 1-gappers to 2-gappers such as Vince Wilfork (a 1-gapper in college). That is good coaching by BB that has yet to be displayed by Mangini.

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