sieglo

No, but your stement, "Johnson was almost lying on the groung when we hit Garrard. And the only reason he got hurt was his ankle rolled under him." completely mischaracterized what happened. I am calling you on it. Perhaps you are trying to cover up what really happened out there.

workhorse

How so? Johnson was almost lying on the ground, the only thing keeping him off it was his hand. He lurched forward, tries to grab both of Garrard's legs but Garrard managed to get one free and as Johnson tackles Garrard his ankle rolls under Johnson's body.

How did I mischaracterize?

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BWareofDWare

What do you see when you watch that video that isn't him on the ground wrapping up his legs and Garrard rolling his ankle under him?

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sieglo

Maybe you need to rewatch the part of the play where Johnson was falling and his helmet and shoulder impacter Gerrard's knee as Gerrard was placing his weight on it.

workhorse

What exactly was he supposed to hit him with at that point? Was he supposed to do some sort of Matrix time slowing, spin in a break dancing windmill type move and use his belly to take him down?

I realize that many around here feel that the Colts players are super human, but they put one their pants one leg at a time.

Seriously how was he supposed to tackle him or sis you expect him to pull up and not go for the sack?

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Tommysgirl

And how, exactly, is a 300+ lb man supposed to fall forward gracefully with people on his back? Were his fingertips supposed to support him?

Amnorix

I think the Colts hit was a perfectly clean play.

I think Wilfork has a problem. The arm angle of his elbow looked a bit odd.

The difference here is that the Colts guy was unavoidably falling into the QB. I think Vince was trying to take the QB down and knew he wasn't going to do it without extending a body part. He didn't mean to hit low, injure, or nail the knee, but as best I can tell he wanted to hit the guy.

To me, Vince's hit **LOOKS** a helluva lot worse than what the Colts player did. In fact, I have no idea what anybody on this board wants the Colts player to have done. It was totally unavoidable.

And yes, I'm a Pats fan.

Amnorix

How was this avoidable by the player who was falling?

workhorse

Are you trying to agree with me or disagree?

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Tommysgirl

I'm simply pointing out that they both seem to be falling, you are defending the Colts. Now, I will not assume you were quick to call Wilfork dirty because I do not know. I'm just saying the argument is the same for both hits, they were both falling down. The difference is I want to see if Johnson gets fined. Remember, I didn't start this thread calling it a dirty play. I only asked if anyone else saw the similarity.