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Old 10-22-2007, 01:04 AM   #101
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On another note Moss has never had a good game in the Dome.
The book on Moss used to be that Cover 2 gave him fits.

I suspect that's ancient history, but even if it isn't, the Pats have enough weapons that double-covering Moss will open up vulnerabilities elsewhere.

Stallworth and Welker are obviously both excellent run-after-catch guys, so throwing "where Freeney used to be" could be a productive tactic.

That and running right at him, as you also suggest.

Please note that the Pats have had a lot of success in the past putting a TE on Freeney. And Kyle Brady is one of the few TEs in the league who might actually be a blocking UPGRADE vs. Daniel Graham.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:09 AM   #102
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The book on Moss used to be that Cover 2 gave him fits.

I suspect that's ancient history, but even if it isn't, the Pats have enough weapons that double-covering Moss will open up vulnerabilities elsewhere.

Stallworth and Welker are obviously both excellent run-after-catch guys, so throwing "where Freeney used to be" could be a productive tactic.

That and running right at him, as you also suggest.

Please note that the Pats have had a lot of success in the past putting a TE on Freeney. And Kyle Brady is one of the few TEs in the league who might actually be a blocking UPGRADE vs. Daniel Graham.
Sounds like a good game plan. Except there is another DE on the team that is just as fast as Freeney. Who's your teams Right Tackle?
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:29 AM   #103
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Except there is another DE on the team that is just as fast as Freeney.
Why are his numbers down this year? Scheme, or is there something a bit off in his play?
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:35 AM   #104
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Let me generalize that last question -- what is it about the Colts' scheme or personnel that has them so low in sacks despite a focus on a couple of pass-rushing personnel? Tied for second to last in the league last year; much lower than other successful pass defenses this year. I realize the Colts don't face many passing attempts per game, but that doesn't seem like enough to explain it.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:43 AM   #105
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Why are his numbers down this year? Scheme, or is there something a bit off in his play?
Who Freeney? He's getting pressure just not the sacks. Also the QB's we have played have done so many 3 step drops there isn't enough time to get a sack. We've been dinked and dunked on all year. That's how the cover 2 works i guess.
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Let me generalize that last question -- what is it about the Colts' scheme or personnel that has them so low in sacks despite a focus on a couple of pass-rushing personnel? Tied for second to last in the league last year; much lower than other successful pass defenses this year. I realize the Colts don't face many passing attempts per game, but that doesn't seem like enough to explain it.
I say it's the other offense doing quick hit passes.
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:26 AM   #107
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Who Freeney?
Mathis too. That's who you were referring to, I presume.
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:33 AM   #108
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I say it's the other offense doing quick hit passes.
That used to be the story with the Pats' defense too. But then somehow the actual sack numbers started going up. No one player ever seems to hit double digits (although Seymour and Vrabel both came close in 2003, as did Colvin last year), but somehow the overall totals wind up respectable.
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I say it's the other offense doing quick hit passes.
Bingo. The Colt's defense has allowed the fewest passing yards in the league this year and is tied for 2nd with the lowest average per pass attempt.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...S&d-447263-n=1

Teams are countering the Colt's pass rush with short, quick passes. Those are the stats that tell you the impact that Mathis and Freeney have on the other teams game-plan.
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When i say the Dome i meant RCA Dome. Dungy knows how to hold him in check. He did it in Tampa also.
How many times has Dungy actually had to plan to defend against Moss and what were Randy Moss's #'s? Oh yea, another point, now Dungy has to account for the fact that Tom Brady is throwing him the ball!
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