Cowboys Defensive TD Was An Incomplete Pass - Page 10 - New England Patriots Forums

Seven Nation Army · 10-15-2007, 08:48 PM

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What you are not getting is that the thowing motion is not over until he tucks the ball back into his body.

Did you read your own quoted evidence? It says that the protected throwing motion is over BEFORE he tucks the ball back towards his body.

"Does the ball come out after [the quarterback's] arm is going forward and before he tucks the ball back into his body? If so, then it's an incomplete pass."

You are confused because you don't understand Pereira's semantics.

Seven Nation Army · 10-15-2007, 08:54 PM

If you are puzzled by my reply than you are confused between a "tuck" and bringing the ball down. This is why that word should never be used.

Hardboiled · 10-15-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Seven Nation Army

Did you read your own quoted evidence? It says that the protected throwing motion is over BEFORE he tucks the ball back towards his body.

Seven Nations,

Firstly, you can't quote me if you change my writing.

Pereira doesn't say "back towards his body." He says "It's back into his body." Why did you change that?

It says that the protected thowing motion (your words) ENDS when he tucks the ball against this body. ENDS. Nothing about bring the ball down or up or over or here or there.

You keep talking about bringing the ball down. Where is bringing the ball down cited except in YOUR view of throwing motion?

***He Ban Me*** · 10-16-2007, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by spacecrime

You're a pain in the butt troll with so little pride and self-respect you keep returning to a place where you are despised.

You are here only to be a jerk by talking down the Pats. I doubt if you even know what a tuck is. It's just that in this case a Pats poster was wrong, so your automatic and mindless naysaying in this case lined up with the facts.

Big deal. Go away. (You won't be here after Nov 4 anyway, so why not leave now and salavage a modicum of self-respect?)

DUDE!! It's an INTERNET FORUM!! I don't give a rats rear WHAT you think. I'm not here to be a jerk, I am here to offer a different perspective.

fact is, I got JUMPED for a differing opinion. You guys can't STAND another opinion. Is this the way you treat everyone who begs to differ?

So, big deal, you go away.

Hardboiled · 10-16-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by He Ban Me

, I am here to offer a different perspective.
fact is, I got JUMPED for a differing opinion. You guys can't STAND another opinion.

No. You got jumped for showing ignorance over and over in your posts. You offered an ignorant opinion and then had the gaul to say that you needed to find out more about the subject. End of thread for me.

***He Ban Me*** · 10-16-2007, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardboiled

No. You got jumped for showing ignorance over and over in your posts. You offered an ignorant opinion and then had the gaul to say that you needed to find out more about the subject. End of thread for me.

Fumble.....End of thread

Oswlek · 10-16-2007, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Seven Nation Army

Did you read your own quoted evidence? It says that the protected throwing motion is over BEFORE he tucks the ball back towards his body.

"Does the ball come out after [the quarterback's] arm is going forward and before he tucks the ball back into his body? If so, then it's an incomplete pass."

You are confused because you don't understand Pereira's semantics.

No, they do have that correct. Even if the QB is in the process of "tucking" the ball back into his body, it is still an incomplete pass.

Where they are incorect is the line of thought that the tuck is the only way to discern the end of the throwing motion, when in fact is is quite easy to do so. Your line here is excellent:

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ONLY the throwing motion is protected, and ONLY the forward part of the throwing motion is protected.

As soon as the original motion ends it would be considered a fumble.