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Old 10-11-2007, 08:41 PM   #1
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Peter King dropped a pretty big bomb on HBO's Inside the NFL last night, mentioning that Wade Phillips wonders how much Bill Belichick's cheating aided the Patriots' dynasty.

"You know, 5 and 0 New England against 5 and 0 Dallas. The league, the Patriots, everybody, they just want this Spygate thing to go away. But Wade Phillips this week told me something that I think a lot of coaches around the league and a lot of people around the league are still thinking and that is, 'Hey, New England was caught cheating and it is a black mark on their success.'
"There is no doubt in my mind that it is and more and more people around the league are starting to say, "Why did this thing just go away? Why didn't it get more traction?'"


Phillips, however, accused King of putting words in his mouth.

"I didn't say that at all," Phillips said during today's press conference. "I think they would have won no matter what. I have no idea that it even helped them. They were a great football team, well coached. I don't see any way they wouldn't have won what they did.

"I don't think that at all, and I don't know why Peter would say that. Maybe he thinks that."

UPDATE: An HBO spokesman said King stands by his report.

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Old 10-11-2007, 08:46 PM   #2
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http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/


Peter King dropped a pretty big bomb on HBO's Inside the NFL last night, mentioning that Wade Phillips wonders how much Bill Belichick's cheating aided the Patriots' dynasty.

"You know, 5 and 0 New England against 5 and 0 Dallas. The league, the Patriots, everybody, they just want this Spygate thing to go away. But Wade Phillips this week told me something that I think a lot of coaches around the league and a lot of people around the league are still thinking and that is, 'Hey, New England was caught cheating and it is a black mark on their success.'
"There is no doubt in my mind that it is and more and more people around the league are starting to say, "Why did this thing just go away? Why didn't it get more traction?'"


Phillips, however, accused King of putting words in his mouth.

"I didn't say that at all," Phillips said during today's press conference. "I think they would have won no matter what. I have no idea that it even helped them. They were a great football team, well coached. I don't see any way they wouldn't have won what they did.

"I don't think that at all, and I don't know why Peter would say that. Maybe he thinks that."

UPDATE: An HBO spokesman said King stands by his report.

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This whole thing has gone from being largely over-blown to a f'kn joke!
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I've added and attributed this lead post to the pre-existing thread.

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Peter King should be fired. The guy has gone completely mental....

And for argument's sake, let's say Peter King was telling the truth, well, good luck getting exclusives now....Peter King the rat.

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My guess is that Phillips actually said those things to King - but he thought that King wasn't going to disclose to the audience that those comments were actually Phillips' thoughts, instead Phillips assumed King would say something to the effect of, "A head coach told me that he felt... ." Now Phillips looks like Mangina-esque babbling fool, so he's backtracking. Just a theory.
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You can't tell King anything these days. I wonder how it will be for him getting info now.
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I agree that Phillips probably said something to that effect off the record. It doesn't change the fact that this whole thing is starting to eat away at King's journalist integrity and his image. He is starting to come off as a guy with an agenda. I know two teams that won't be giving him any quotes at least of the rest of the year now (Pats and Cowboys).

He and Collinsworth came off like little babies on Inside the NFL. First they were upset that no one in the league would explain what was on the tapes or why they were destroyed and now they are upset that no one has explained it until now and never told everyone in the league or told the fans directly. Get over it.

You know there is a small segment of the public who still cares about this story, but most have moved on. His obsession with it is going to be his downfall if he doesn't gain some objectivity and make sure he gets his quotes correct and the people he is quoting have said what they said on the record.
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You can't tell King anything these days. I wonder how it will be for him getting info now.
I think he is channeling Ron Borges.
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Peter King should be fired. The guy has gone completely mental....

And for argument's sake, let's say Peter King was telling the truth, well, good luck getting exclusives now....Peter King the rat.
Peter king is the Jay Leno of the NFL. He's mangini's best friend for sure! ****** HIM!
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I always liked King. It's really hard to understand where he's coming from.

Prior to the Jets game when Cimini misquoted that article of his, he made some kind of comment to the effect of...."It's no wonder Belichick treats the media like Vermin".

You'd think that with an insight like that he'd understand why Belichick and the Patriots would prefer to handle the situation privately with the league and avoid empowering the media's desire to play judge, jury, and executioner.

King's behavior just doesn't make sense.

He's probably just got a grudge now b/c Belichick and the Patriots have completely shut him out. He's just another one of these media hacks who believe they're entitled to the inside scoop and since the Patriots are blocking his efforts, he's decided to make it personal. In other words, he's just like every one of the local hacks who ***** and moan b/c they can't get the juicy stories out of the team.

My other theory is that King is a very good networker and that he's befriended known Patriots haters from around the league or from within the media. His access to these Patriots haters have influenced him for the worse.
I guess he's just not wise enough to decipher between reality and the nonsense. It's disappointing actually. I was always happy for him after he started receiving increased airtime.

The disappointing part is that he hasn't strived to bring a fair and balanced angle to the subject. He's become another hack spouting nothing but speculation and assumption.

Where oh where did all the good sportswriters go???
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