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Old 10-12-2007, 01:29 AM   #31
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Who else thinks that Wade Phillips probably hasn't spent two seconds thinking about the whole spygate incident in weeks and only commented on it because Peter King won't let it die and asked a direct question on it? Who else thinks that any quote either King or Collinsworth have been getting recently on the who Spygate thing are not unsolicited comments, but only comments given because they are too interested in keeping this story alive by proding whoever in the league for more comments?

It is funny that the only people who seem to be getting any new feedback around the league about Spygate are the guys who refuse to let it die. If King and Collinsworth weren't leading a two man crusade to keep this thing going, only fringe writers like Easterbrook would still be talking about this.

By the way, where were King and Collinsworth when the Broncos got caught cheating giving Elway an illegal contract so they didn't have to cut a key player to get Elway under contract? Both were analyst for the league at that time, but I never saw either so vigilalent to keep that story alive.
Amen! I agree on the Bronco's cheating comment. And don't forget the 49er's were also found guilty of tampering and salary cap violations. Gee, I wonder if all this hoopla is EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN? By emotionally driven, I am referrig to the widespread disdain for Bill Belichick and the general envy of the Patriots. Otherwise, how can this be explained?

I challenge King, Costas, Easterbrooks or Collinsworth to discuss this question. Put it to the public and and ask them,

"Why are we making this big a deal out of videogate while virtually nothing was ever written about the 49er's and Bronco's Salary Cap violations?"

Do any of you have any theories?

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Old 10-12-2007, 01:33 AM   #32
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Peter King just won't shut up about this. I can't believe it, it's almost like he's writing about something more important than football.
It's the Woodward and Bernstein effect. Some of these guys dreamed about being Washington reporters and such. Now they're stuck trying to find different adjectives to describe some team beating some other team.

All of a sudden, they're freakin' investigative reporters! They just can't let it go. Anybody that's got to pad his column with girls softball and what kind of lard he put on his coffee is obviously bored of sports anyway.
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:17 AM   #33
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I challenge King, Costas, Easterbrooks or Collinsworth to discuss this question. Put it to the public and and ask them,

"Why are we making this big a deal out of videogate while virtually nothing was ever written about the 49er's and Bronco's Salary Cap violations?"

Do any of you have any theories?
It's not that hard to figure, since all of them (King, Collinsworth, and Easterbrook) have all cited their reasoning - basically that "too many 'top league people' in various teams" have made assertions about much worse going on. They believe these "experts" because they have no facts, but more because it matches their sense of "smell test" - PFT said it best "this much smoke has to mean fire."

What they fail to understand is that their "expert sources" have two logical reasons to be so universally wrong:

1. Ignorance - These "experts" are envious, distru(Please be quiet - edited)l, and generally don't understand the Patriots to begin with. Compare what the same "experts" said about Randy Moss or Corey Dillon, or even Mike Vrable when he came here. So if they can't get that basic stuff right, how can they have any insight into this?

2. Reputation - I believe the Pats/BB has intentionally allowed (or even stoked) a reputation as "we're up to something" so that teams are so worried about all these things they fail to see what the Pats are actually doing. It's not a major campaign or anything, either. It's the same as not releasing injury info until the last possible moment required. Let the other guys think and worry about whatever they want. This lack of refutation feeds the rumor mongering (compare to "Belichick is leaving town this year" or "Brady is upset about..." or anything else).

Finally, they all tend to adopt a "silence equals consent" world view. Belichick and the Pats are just so fundamentally different than any other team when it comes to being attacked. The entire rest of the league would make statements, at least go off the record, whatever - because they all think PR matters at some level. Belichick and the Pats organization has been well trained in Boston to simply not respond in any way. The Local guys understand that that's just their way, but the National guys see that and think "wow, they must be hunkered down big time to not say ANYthing about this?! something must be up..."
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Who else thinks that Wade Phillips probably hasn't spent two seconds thinking about the whole spygate incident in weeks and only commented on it because Peter King won't let it die and asked a direct question on it? Who else thinks that any quote either King or Collinsworth have been getting recently on the who Spygate thing are not unsolicited comments, but only comments given because they are too interested in keeping this story alive by proding whoever in the league for more comments?

It is funny that the only people who seem to be getting any new feedback around the league about Spygate are the guys who refuse to let it die. If King and Collinsworth weren't leading a two man crusade to keep this thing going, only fringe writers like Easterbrook would still be talking about this.

By the way, where were King and Collinsworth when the Broncos got caught cheating giving Elway an illegal contract so they didn't have to cut a key player to get Elway under contract? Both were analyst for the league at that time, but I never saw either so vigilalent to keep that story alive.
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