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We should change NOTHING on defense till further notice IMO
O.K. Rodney is to be back this week and Seymour MAY BE coming back in a few weeks BUT....
I think it would be a BIG mistake if we changed things on defense right now even though the 2 guys returning soon are BIG names like Rodney Harrison and Richard Seymour
Lets face it,we have not missed ANY of these two defensive stars thus far - We have given up 14-14-7-13 points in the first four
games,Why would BB mess around and change things just because 2 popular and veteran guys are able to play?
The old saying goes,If it ain't broken don't fix it
We have not had a defensive performance like this in 4 consecutive games that I can remember in my 35 years as a Pats fan and as one announcer said last night 'This team is a well oiled Machine'
Unless the team starts to show signs of giving up big plays,points or yardage I see no reason to remove Green or Sanders from full time play or at least be in there 85% of the game
I know some fans here are big Rodney and Seymour fans and I am glad they will be around to come off the bench should an injury or bad defensive game arise and brings the depth up to unbelievable talent but there is absolutely no reason IMO why things should change to the current lineup if we continue to win decisively.
Your thoughts?
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Re: We should change NOTHING on defense till further notice IMO
My thought is that this is asinine. Sorry.
The Patriots D is playing well because they're relatively healthy, because Adalius Thomas has been added to the mix, and because the young guys in the secondary are a year older and more experienced. It's not because of some secret, delicate chemistry that occurs b/c Seymour's and Harrison's replacements are perfect fits.
This team's D is hitting on all cylinders right now because they're GOOD. Adding Seymour and Harrison will only serve to continue that trend. It's not going to make it WORSE. Good Lord.
Re: We should change NOTHING on defense till further notice IMO
Simple really, Rodney knows this defense better than Sanders and can put guys into better position on the field. He is a coach on the field, not to mention the intensity that he brings to this D.
Seymour is a guy that opposing teams need to game plan for. Green is not.
There is a reason why these guys are big names and they shouldn't be sitting on the bench if they are able to play.
Why wouldn't you want to possibly improve this D by adding in the leader and heart of the defense and one of the most dominating D-lineman in the game? Makes no sense.
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Re: We should change NOTHING on defense till further notice IMO
Seymour isn't an issue because he's out for at least two more weeks.
Sanders is a nice player but he's not #37. I expect Harrison to get in this week, not start, and get more and more time as he gets back into the swing of things.
Re: We should change NOTHING on defense till further notice IMO
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Originally Posted by maverick4
I do think Jarvis needs to play a lot more when Seymour comes back.
Jarvis is devastating as a pass rusher, and is also highly under-rated against the run. Basically, he's a stud who shouldn't be a backup.
Jarvis isn't deployed like a "backup." He is a VERY GOOD PLAYER. I like the guy. Richard Seymour is a HALL OF FAMER.
I mean, are we seriously having this conversation? Seymour is the ONE guy on our defense, outside of maybe Wilfork, who teams have to gameplan FOR. Double- and triple-team. If Jarvis plays, and he will, it will be in rotation with Seymour and Warren. That is a huge benefit for this defense. But the idea that Seymour should be in some kind of platoon is genuinely insane.
Re: We should change NOTHING on defense till further notice IMO
My thoughts are similar to those expressed earlier - this is why you are not a GM or HC but a message board thread starter.
You always start or play the best available players that you anticipate give you the best possible chance to win. That is what Bill will do. That is one of the many reasons he's going to the HOF.
Re: We should change NOTHING on defense till further notice IMO
PFIPA, did you see Harrison in the pre-season, darting across the field to break up passes? The guy is a playmaker. I'm not so concerned about the Browns, but when Dallas is in town and expecially on Nov 4th, I want my man Rodney fully plugged into that defense.
Re: We should change NOTHING on defense till further notice IMO
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Originally Posted by patsox23
My thought is that this is asinine. Sorry.
The Patriots D is playing well because they're relatively healthy, because Adalius Thomas has been added to the mix, and because the young guys in the secondary are a year older and more experienced. It's not because of some secret, delicate chemistry that occurs b/c Seymour's and Harrison's replacements are perfect fits.
I don't understand the argument you are making,Sorry but if the defense has given up less than 14 points a game I don't know how you can argue that the team is doing just fine,Changing things on defense can't be much different and you can't really argue this until an opponent puts up at least 20 on the Pats,How could you possibly contest this? - The secondary has not been lit up nor has the defensive line taken a hit.
There have been may who say even though a certain area on the team does not look to be so talented its a fact that if those guys begin to gel together fine because they have played together so much and almost know where each guy is doing or where they are going to be they should be a strong unit,especially on a well coached team which is what is happening here.
Either you are a BIG Harrison or Seymour fan or I don't understand the logic.
And BTW Pees has been the BEST defensive coordinator in the past 2 years that the Patriots ever have had before in 2 consecutive years in their history,You can add that to the success of this underated unit.
Re: We should change NOTHING on defense till further notice IMO
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Originally Posted by patsox23
Jarvis isn't deployed like a "backup." He is a VERY GOOD PLAYER. I like the guy. Richard Seymour is a HALL OF FAMER.
I mean, are we seriously having this conversation? Seymour is the ONE guy on our defense, outside of maybe Wilfork, who teams have to gameplan FOR. Double- and triple-team. If Jarvis plays, and he will, it will be in rotation with Seymour and Warren. That is a huge benefit for this defense. But the idea that Seymour should be in some kind of platoon is genuinely insane.
And that goes double for Rodney. He is our best safety, period. He also knows the D very well and can make all the calls. Not to mention the way he will lay people out.
__________________ On a day when they could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson . . they took Richard Seymour, who is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where they could have gotten Robert Ferguson and settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon. - Ron Borges, MSNBC after 2001 Draft