Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possible - Page 11 - New England Patriots Forums

Patriot_in_NY · 09-16-2007, 11:07 AM

Way to wait til game day to annouce this you fukcing tool. Why not just not let us show up for the next few games.

LoveDemPats · 09-16-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bella*chick

THANK YOU. I completely agree. It makes no sense to have someone reviewing every game we've ever played to try and see if our notes show we had an in-game advantage! Come on now, that's nearly impossible to do.

They don't want us to benefit from ANY info we obtained via illegal videotape. The coaching bible we keep hearing about is being turned over so we can no longer have whatever advantage (however big or small) we may have previously enjoyed.

(btw, as my husband just pointed out, they want any originals and copies we may have...if they are going to be scouring games looking to see if we cheated in-game, they wouldn't care at all if we copied it).

Hey, could you help explain the last part, - what your husband said? I don't really understand that.

DynastyDriven · 09-16-2007, 11:09 AM

If Goodell discovers that Belichick and the team has copied the files without disclosure to the NFL, the consequences will be significant, sources said.

mgm79 · 09-16-2007, 11:10 AM

The fact this news was "leaked" on Sunday morning is telling. This has little to with investigating or getting evidence but a lot to do w/ screwing BB and the pats as much as possible.

***BelichickFan*** · 09-16-2007, 11:10 AM

The part her husband said, about copies, suggests that they want to avoid our using them not look for new issues. If they were looking for new violations that originals would suffice - getting copies too is to ensure we can't use the illegal product.

LoveDemPats · 09-16-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DynastyDriven

If Goodell discovers that Belichick and the team has copied the files without disclosure to the NFL, the consequences will be significant, sources said.

This, I don't understand. Do you know what they mean? I understand about copying obviously, but what are they alluding to? What would that prove in other words.

Funktopus · 09-16-2007, 11:12 AM

A few of thoughts:

1) I can't wait to see how things are handled by Goodell when we get to the next media cycle.

2) Goodell has already demonstrated a tendency to "determine" if rules were broken. Turning over more video just gives him more opportunity to "find" something.

3) Not to head off the inevitable request for the tapes, but because they were following the ruling. What do you think Goodell would do, if the Pats proactively purged the historical tapes as a result of the ruling earlier this week?

LoveDemPats · 09-16-2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan

The part her husband said, about copies, suggests that they want to avoid our using them not look for new issues. If they were looking for new violations that originals would suffice - getting copies too is to ensure we can't use the illegal product.

Thanks,

But, what about getting in serious trouble if they found out that we copied them?

BrianPat · 09-16-2007, 11:13 AM

Thinking more about it, I think the message ( leaked info ) says it all. Because it states that Bill didn't realize he was breaking the rules, but everytime he did, he was. Could they be looking for the number of time he did it, which would be every game and put together a punishment for all the infractions ?????? Tell me I'm way off with this, please

kolbitr · 09-16-2007, 11:14 AM

I would point out this comment from commissioner's office spokesman Aiello:

"Estrella will not be punished, league spokesman Greg Aiello said, adding that there is no investigation into claims that the Patriots have been doing this for years.
"Our goal is to stop this type of conduct going forward and level the playing field," Aiello said.

Surely this is the sensible approach. Any requests for documentation will be from this incident, to eliminate it. I suspect Mortensen and ESPN simply want to sensationalize the leaks, possibly from the competition committee (no suprise on either count!!).