Caspir

"Sir, I pressed the red button, but I had no idea the nuke would destroy the entire continent."

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Bargod

If Mangini never intended for this to happen then why were there reports that NFL security there checking credentials of the cameramen? I may have missed this but early on I had heard they were. I wanted Bob Costas to ask him if they had NFL security checking checking credentials at every game or was it just taht one.

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Mainefan

AFTER the fine was levied, Mangini demanded that the League look at the Patriots' radio frequency violations as well.

So much for Mangini's intentions. He is indeed trying to destroy BB's career--and the Patriots--and I'll bet he's being aided and abetted by his own front office, which has long hated BB.

On another point, I think BB is enormously misunderstood. He doesn't hate the press. He simply doesn't want to give any information to his opponents. Any. The press is naturally frustrated by this and calls him arrogant or standoffish, but that's not really the case.

BB is just completely focussed on his job: winning games. He is genuinely obsessed with winning and he's smart enough to see ways of getting an edge that no one else has thought of or that no one has the drive to follow through.

NFL teams rely heavily on deception, on and off the field. It is a key aspect of football, often underestimated. And with the determination to deceive comes its mirror-image: the determination to uncover the deception.

Coaches great and small have always tried to get an edge on the competition and their efforts have often violated rules. Here's an example from my youth, involving Paul Brown, a coach very much in the mold of Bill B.:

From the PFW archives:

"In 1994, the National Football League instituted the use of a radio helmet to allow for limited communication from the sidelines to the quarterback on the field. While it might seem that such a technological advancement was a first, the idea was actually nearly 40 years old.

In 1956, two Ohio inventors, John Campbell and George Sarles, approached Hall of Fame coach Paul Brown of the Cleveland Browns with a radio receiver they had developed. The two theorized that the radio could be placed in a helmet to help Brown communicate with his players on the field. In doing so, Brown would eliminate the delays caused by his utilization of substitute players who ran the plays from the sideline to the huddle.

Brown liked the idea and agreed to put the radio receiver into QB George Ratterman’s helmet but insisted that the plan be kept a secret and thoroughly tested before ever being used in an actual game. The radio was carefully mounted into the helmet and, using the seclusion of a wooded area behind Campbell's home, the pair proceeded to test the unit. Sarles retreated to the woods with the helmet. The signal became weak, and communication broke off. When Sarles did not return, Campbell set out to find his partner. Soon thereafter, he spotted Sarles talking with a police officer who had intercepted the signal. Fortunately for Sarles and Campbell, the officer was a Browns fan and agreed to keep the discovery under wraps. Nonetheless, the pair changed the frequency on the unit.

The helmet was first used, to perfection, in an exhibition game against the Detroit Lions. However, the Lions’ coaching staff began to notice that Brown was not using his usual substitutions for play-calling. Shortly after halftime, one of the Lions’ assistants spotted the partially hidden transmitter, which sat behind a wooden light post on the sideline.

News quickly spread throughout the league, and other teams scrambled to devise their own units, none of which proved as effective as the Sarles-Campbell invention. The Browns used the helmet in three more games before NFL commissioner Bert Bell outlawed the use of the device.

In 1985, John Campbell donated the headgear to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Ratterman’s helmet is now on display in an exhibit with other recent innovations, including a modern-day radio helmet."

PonyExpress

I guess Paul Brown, maybe the greatest coach in NFL history, was a "cheater". If the great Bert Bell had had the wisdom of our current genius Commish, he would dragged Brown's name through the mud, publicly humilated him, taken away draft picks and fined Paul Brown an enormous sum. Unfortunately, he lacked Doofus Goodell's wsidom and merely handled the issue in a sensible, equitable manner for the good of the game. What an idiot that Bert Bell was. He should have been a PR fraud instead of a War hero.

PatsChick87

Actually, I think BB does care about his reputation. On an interview with Steve Sabol he once said (in response to not wearing any jewelry or SB rings, not even a watch) that the only important thing is a man's name and reputation. So I think its safe to say that BB's name and reputation mean an awful lot to him. The qualifier here is that I'm sure that holds true only to people he respects and that he calls friends. Somehow I don't think the majority of the media fall into that category.

To the gist of your post, no I don't think this was some sort of double jeopardy scheme.

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stcjones

This is BS....Mangini has had a hair across his a## against BB since he left. He was getting his a## kicked by us right from the get go (and ended up getting a good ole fashioned a## whipping), and didn't want to get massacred by the NY media on Monday....thus the whistle blowing. Now, someone has brought to light that BB brought the same cameraman out in a game against the jests last season....and if this was true, I would be amazed at BB's brashness............Make no mistake though....Man-GINA is a ungratelful, gutless, cowardly, wallowing in sh##, rat fink weasel........

stcjones

"My theory is that Mangini, like any rational person, expected the Pats would get a slap on the wrist from the NFL if they were caught in a technical violation of the camera rule. Getting the Pats busted like this is consistent with the "border war" that's been going on for a while now."

Do you really think this? Goodell had already handed out 3 pretty severe penalties this season. Second, we are dealing with the NY media here which Man-GINA had to have known, would run like a witch hunt mob with the story. Man-GINA knew exactly what he was doing. He was getting his fat, cottage cheese a## kicked all over the field, and decided to blow the whistle as a diversion and take a shot at the guy who was responsible for all Man-GINA's success.......and his mentor.....He should be ashamed of doing this to BB.....If he had simply picked up the phone and said "Tell Bill I know about the camera and I want it out of there right now, or I'm calling security"....It would have been ok....But to set him up like that is pathetic......

stcjones

This is a great point about the radio frequency bullsh##..........I heard that last night about mangina calling for an investigation into another camera that was being used as well that was recording audio of the signals.....You just jogged my memory on that........If Man-GINA didn't mean for all this to happen and was upset that the security confiscated the tape and it all got overblown....HE wouldn't be calling for a NEW investigation to try to continue to smear BB and the Pats........He is a worthless, slime covered, fat a@@ed rat.....that will get his someday......

AzPatsFan

Not only that issue of radio helmets; Paul Brown was the first to film a game and breakdown film for weaknesses and tendencies. Talk aboiut an unfair "cheating" advantage.

Now the " Great Doof" has forgotten or never knew that of that Paul Brown "cheating" to get an edge.

pats_ftw!!1!

Media Sensationalism at its finest, making something out of nothing

thats the biggest problem, its too bad that people tend to believe everything they see on tv, and all of the hype that surrounds it. waayy overblown imo