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sieglo · 09-11-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan

Going 56 in a 55 is against the rules - is it a big deal ?

Only if you're Lindsay Lohan and you're hopped up on pain killers, coke, and booze.

New England is the equivalent of Lindsay Lohan in your analogy.

NEPat · 09-11-2007, 12:45 PM

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Going 56 in a 55 is against the rules - is it a big deal ?

But isn't the whole point the NFL thinks it's a big deal? Isn't that what we've all been talking about? That the Pats might be in trouble because the NFL specifically pointed out NOT to videotape?

14thDragon · 09-11-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack Herron

If there is a mic in the LB helmet, then teams will steal the electronic signal. (The story is that we already did that in NY too.)

As I understand it, the problem is to whom does the voice in the ear go? LB come on and off the field in lots of different sub packages, safteies and corners as well, lineman are rotated regularly.

On offense the QB is always out there, there are few coresponding guys on the D that are out there every play.

***BelichickFan*** · 09-11-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sieglo

Only if you're Lindsay Lohan and you're hopped up on pain killers, coke, and booze.

New England is the equivalent of Lindsay Lohan in your analogy.

Huh ?

If no team tried to steal signs and we were stealing them and using them real time - then you're right.

As it stands, we're speeding. Nothing more, nothing less. Every team does what it can to steal signs. You don't think inside info is part of why Mangina's blitzes killed us in the home game last year ? Of course it was.

upstater1 · 09-11-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bella*chick

Okay, is it stealing signals that is illegal or videotaping them as a method of stealing that is illegal?

Come on now. If stealing signals is illegal, then all methods to do so should be considered illegal.

And for the record, I don't care what the Colts do to gain a competitive advantage. Pipe in crowd noise, steal signals, so what. Teams do this, always have, probably always will. What is the big effin' deal? Let's play ball already, this is so overblown and STUPID.

Getting stolen signals through videotaping isn't illegal either, as the NFL made it known after the Miami game last year. Only videotaping is illegal. But if someone already made the videotape, you're free to use it for the purpose of stealing signals.

workhorse · 09-11-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NEPat

But isn't the whole point the NFL thinks it's a big deal? Isn't that what we've all been talking about? That the Pats might be in trouble because the NFL specifically pointed out NOT to videotape?

I think you are right. Here is a link about the subject prior to the start of the season. I know it refers to cameras in the press box, but it's the topic in general.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...nfl/index.html

***BelichickFan*** · 09-11-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NEPat

But isn't the whole point the NFL thinks it's a big deal? Isn't that what we've all been talking about? That the Pats might be in trouble because the NFL specifically pointed out NOT to videotape?

The NFL will do what it does. We might be "in trouble" if they decide to be overbearing asses. I'm not arguing what will happen because I don't know. I'm just saying not much SHOULD happen. What we did is no big deal - if the NFL has had enough of us and puts the screws to us then we're *****ed I guess but that still doesn't mean we did anything really wrong. It SHOULD be a slap on the wrist - hopefully should will become will.

upstater1 · 09-11-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan

Right, and at the end of the day IF we did it that's not a big deal if other teams are "stealing" signs by their chosen method. Some innocuous thing isn't a big deal - stealing signs would be if all other teams were choir boys.

A big deal is being made over little.

Again, this doesn't preclude the possibility that you steal signals by using a videotape. That's still legal in the NFL. What's illegal is the actual act of videotaping.

But if you have the tape in your possession, there's nothing wrong with stealing the signals and using them, apparently.

***BelichickFan*** · 09-11-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by workhorse

I think you are right. Here is a link about the subject prior to the start of the season. I know it refers to cameras in the press box, but it's the topic in general.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...nfl/index.html

Whatever. If you're stealing signs you're stealing signs. The fine line of whether the NFL approves of it or not is very questionable.

What Saban did last year was much more to their competitive advantage but it's legal. Go figure.

***BelichickFan*** · 09-11-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

Again, this doesn't preclude the possibility that you steal signals by using a videotape. That's still legal in the NFL. What's illegal is the actual act of videotaping.

Right. And for videotaping (if we did it) we should get a minor punishment if we violated that rule. A major punishment for cheating ? Nope.