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patsox23 · 09-09-2007, 11:16 PM

This isn't as knee-jerk as it sounds as I have been saying this for weeks now - and I'm not saying this situation definitely WON'T blow up at some point. I just think from what I understand of Moss, his background, what he has historically responded to (WINNING, not being THE guy, structure, etc...), he will WANT to be here.

A lot of people have posted, even as off-hand comments, that he's just here to get his rep back and to lead to the big pay day - I honestly don't think so. I think Randy LIKES it here. I think he wants to be here, I think he wants Brady as his QB, he wants the structure, he wants to win. I think this is more true of Moss than it was of Dillon.

My prediction - sometime soonafter the season, if not in the MIDDLE of this season, Moss and the Pats will agree to a 3-year extension, keeping him here with Brady as his QB and BB as his coach, for most of the rest of his career.

PATRIOT64 · 09-09-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by patsox23

This isn't as knee-jerk as it sounds as I have been saying this for weeks now - and I'm not saying this situation definitely WON'T blow up at some point. I just think from what I understand of Moss, his background, what he has historically responded to (WINNING, not being THE guy, structure, etc...), he will WANT to be here.

A lot of people have posted, even as off-hand comments, that he's just here to get his rep back and to lead to the big pay day - I honestly don't think so. I think Randy LIKES it here. I think he wants to be here, I think he wants Brady as his QB, he wants the structure, he wants to win. I think this is more true of Moss than it was of Dillon.

My prediction - sometime soonafter the season, if not in the MIDDLE of this season, Moss and the Pats will agree to a 3-year extension, keeping him here with Brady as his QB and BB as his coach, for most of the rest of his career.

Moss made me forget about Stanley Morgan for a minute today - BUT ..

I want to see how Moss reacts when Stallworth or Welker are having the 100yard days and Moss is called in just a few plays and gets 10 yards,Then we will see how he reacts ,Whcih I don't think will be any problem but I want to see it first.

Moss will NOT get 183 Yards every sunday and we know that,so enjoy these RARE performances,WRs don't get that type of Yardage on more than a game or two all season....Unless your name is Jerry Rice or Raymond Berry ect:

PATRIOT64 · 09-09-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by patsox23

This isn't as knee-jerk as it sounds as I have been saying this for weeks now - and I'm not saying this situation definitely WON'T blow up at some point. I just think from what I understand of Moss, his background, what he has historically responded to (WINNING, not being THE guy, structure, etc...), he will WANT to be here.

A lot of people have posted, even as off-hand comments, that he's just here to get his rep back and to lead to the big pay day - I honestly don't think so. I think Randy LIKES it here. I think he wants to be here, I think he wants Brady as his QB, he wants the structure, he wants to win. I think this is more true of Moss than it was of Dillon.

My prediction - sometime soonafter the season, if not in the MIDDLE of this season, Moss and the Pats will agree to a 3-year extension, keeping him here with Brady as his QB and BB as his coach, for most of the rest of his career.

I think the team work on Asante before Moss and less than a week after the season- Unless you think Asante will be a former player once 2007 ends

patsox23 · 09-09-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOT64

Moss made me forget about Stanley Morgan for a minute today - BUT ..

I want to see how Moss reacts when Stallworth or Welker are having the 100yard days and Moss is called in just a few plays and gets 10 yards,Then we will see how he reacts ,Whcih I don't think will be any problem but I want to see it first.

Moss will NOT get 183 Yards every sunday and we know that,so enjoy these RARE performances,WRs don't get that type of Yardage on more than a game or two all season....Unless your name is Jerry Rice or Raymond Berry ect:

I don't disagree with this and it's a really good point.

My suspicion, however, is that he will revel in the opportunity to "behave" in this situation, as well. And that's part of why I wanted to point out that this thread was not intended to be just a knee-jerk reaction to his outstanding performance today. I've felt this, perhaps baselessly, for weeks now. He just seems like a weird-ass misfit, who has found a situation that lines up with PRECISELY what he's always responded to. I really think he'll stay, 180+ yards/game or not.

JJDChE · 09-09-2007, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOT64

Moss will NOT get 183 Yards every sunday and we know that,so enjoy these RARE performances,WRs don't get that type of Yardage on more than a game or two all season....Unless your name is Jerry Rice or Raymond Berry ect:

Most receivers never get 183 yards in their career, even good ones, it was Moss' 3rd highest in his career, and it has been a HoF career.

jct · 09-09-2007, 11:41 PM

I agree, in fact Moss will even give a Home Town discount to us.
(Similar to what Brady and Seymour gave us, top money but less than market).

RayClay · 09-09-2007, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by patsox23

This isn't as knee-jerk as it sounds as I have been saying this for weeks now - and I'm not saying this situation definitely WON'T blow up at some point. I just think from what I understand of Moss, his background, what he has historically responded to (WINNING, not being THE guy, structure, etc...), he will WANT to be here.

A lot of people have posted, even as off-hand comments, that he's just here to get his rep back and to lead to the big pay day - I honestly don't think so. I think Randy LIKES it here. I think he wants to be here, I think he wants Brady as his QB, he wants the structure, he wants to win. I think this is more true of Moss than it was of Dillon.

My prediction - sometime soonafter the season, if not in the MIDDLE of this season, Moss and the Pats will agree to a 3-year extension, keeping him here with Brady as his QB and BB as his coach, for most of the rest of his career.

It's way early, but we might have something Randy needs which is respect and a sense of belonging. He'll get his money too, but don't discount getting those intangible needs filled as a motivation.

I hate to use this example, but if stern daddy Tuna wasn't around, I think Glenn would have been a head case casualty. No father in his life, from what I understand....

BB has done a lot of work on patrol and with Jim brown trying to get into the psychology of kids very foreign to his background.

Being a respected team player might give Randy something he can't buy with a dollah....

....or not. We'll see.

patsox23 · 09-09-2007, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RayClay

It's way early, but we might have something Randy needs which is respect and a sense of belonging. He'll get his money too, but don't discount getting those intangible needs filled as a motivation.

I hate to use this example, but if stern daddy Tuna wasn't around, I think Glenn would have been a head case casualty. No father in his life, from what I understand....

BB has done a lot of work on patrol and with Jim brown trying to get into the psychology of kids very foreign to his background.

Being a respected team player might give Randy something he can't buy with a dollah....

....or not. We'll see.

Thank you for articulating perfectly an aspect of my initial point that I was too lazy to sufficiently describe (or even try to).

Patriot_in_NY · 09-10-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOT64

Moss made me forget about Stanley Morgan for a minute today - BUT ..

I want to see how Moss reacts when Stallworth or Welker are having the 100yard days and Moss is called in just a few plays and gets 10 yards,Then we will see how he reacts ,Whcih I don't think will be any problem but I want to see it first.

Moss will NOT get 183 Yards every sunday and we know that,so enjoy these RARE performances,WRs don't get that type of Yardage on more than a game or two all season....Unless your name is Jerry Rice or Raymond Berry ect:

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Originally Posted by patsox23

I don't disagree with this and it's a really good point.

My suspicion, however, is that he will revel in the opportunity to "behave" in this situation, as well. And that's part of why I wanted to point out that this thread was not intended to be just a knee-jerk reaction to his outstanding performance today. I've felt this, perhaps baselessly, for weeks now. He just seems like a weird-ass misfit, who has found a situation that lines up with PRECISELY what he's always responded to. I really think he'll stay, 180+ yards/game or not.

Some good points, all around.......

One other thing to take into account. Moss just tutned 30........ he's reached the legacy part of his career. In Brady, he knows there is someone that can help he be the reciever he has always envisioned himself to be. I'm sure like most great WR, He wants to be considered one the greatest of all time. To be that, you are dependant on a large part, to your QB. Moss is smart enough to understand that, this time around. He doesn't need freakish stats all the time. He wants his ring, he wants a team, he wants a coach like BB who cares only about football.

I've always felt that Moss coming here was a "perfect storm" of sorts. In many ways, Moss and Dillon are not dissimilar that way. Both misunderstood. Both gifted, both needed to be a part of something great.

I would not be at all surprised to see Moss re-up at some point this year.

zarakotas5 · 09-10-2007, 12:18 AM

Arg. First, can he, will he, should he..

Listen, he was slightly, slighty, a focal point. The offense never went out of it's way to feature him.

He simply got open and made catches.

The forced downfield approaches that we are accustomed to didn't fall incomplete, they were caught.

He wasn't thrown to 15 times. He was simply Randy Moss. Best receiver in the NFL. Coupled with the best QB in the NFL = win. Get used to it.