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Old 09-02-2007, 02:32 AM   #31
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Whatever, deus. I see this in technicolor:

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Legit rumor: Player 'a' might be cut

Bizarre rumor: player 'a' might be cut because an alien told the front office to do it.
You see what you want to see, but you sure as hell aren't seeing in 'technicolor', since I specifically noted that I wasn't going to look for bizarre rumors and instead noted an idiotic one.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:07 AM   #32
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The problem with PFT is they're right enough to read but you sure as hell can't take what they say to the bank - or even to the piggy bank.
But there isn't a site out that meets that standard... the only reporters who are close, e.g. Adam Schefter, rarely have the story until just barely before it's publicly released anyway.
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But there isn't a site out that meets that standard... the only reporters who are close, e.g. Adam Schefter, rarely have the story until just barely before it's publicly released anyway.
So you'd rather have them make up a story that will be a scoop if it happens to be right (law of averages) than wait until they have a real story?

Apparently you're not alone.

By the way I heard rumblings that (generic sensational player) might be gone for the season.
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Old 09-02-2007, 04:56 AM   #34
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So you'd rather have them make up a story that will be a scoop if it happens to be right (law of averages) than wait until they have a real story?
No, of course not. You are accusing PFT of making stuff up. But I have been reading the site for quite a while, and I don't believe that that is true.

Apparently a lot of people agree with me.

There have been enough good predictions and advance information that it looks like many of their sources are accurate. PFT is usually very good about indicating what is Florio's opinion and what his sources are saying, and the degree to which he trusts a source. And with the Vick story and the "TurdWatch" feature they have been highly on the mark and in some cases are the only place you will get the story.
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I have no problem with PFT...sometimes they get it right..sometimes not but there aren't any better sites for football rumors...wish there were..but..not...
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Here's what I think...we all know BB HATES giving up info to anyone ever. So Moss has been purposely held out of everything after initially looking great before the pre-season games. BB knows what he has and is comfortable with it. He lets Moss sit so there's not some freak season ending injury in a game that means basically nothing. He lets the rumors swirl around. The old pain in the butt Moss is back, he's going to get cut, he can't be a team player, and so on and so on. He may not even play against the Jets. Then, in game two he and Brady totally shred a Chargers defense that was not planning on Moss playing much, if at all.
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I like JoeSixPat's theory for plausibility, though it doesn't make me feel very good because it would mean that Moss is "the Moss of old" but NOT in a good way. To be dogging it this early with what's on the line would confirm he's an absolute idiot. I just always thought BB/Pioli would have had a better read on him than that, but that probably means I'm drinking too much Kool-Aid.
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Here's what I think...we all know BB HATES giving up info to anyone ever. So Moss has been purposely held out of everything after initially looking great before the pre-season games. BB knows what he has and is comfortable with it. He lets Moss sit so there's not some freak season ending injury in a game that means basically nothing. He lets the rumors swirl around. The old pain in the butt Moss is back, he's going to get cut, he can't be a team player, and so on and so on. He may not even play against the Jets. Then, in game two he and Brady totally shred a Chargers defense that was not planning on Moss playing much, if at all.
I don't buy that one bit. Moss practiced for six days and has never played in anything close to a real game situation running this offense with Brady throwing to him. This is a complicated offense and the whole QB/WR relationship is all about timing and being on the same page. That cannot be turned on like a light switch. It is all about repetition.

I really doubt Moss was held out of practice for any other reason than that he is injured. There is no great master plan. If Belichick is holding out Moss just as decoy, it is likely to blow up in his face because it isn't likely that Brady and Moss are going to be on the same page. Maybe if he was practicing all training camp and showing timing down, but after six days of practice?
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I like JoeSixPat's theory for plausibility, though it doesn't make me feel very good because it would mean that Moss is "the Moss of old" but NOT in a good way. To be dogging it this early with what's on the line would confirm he's an absolute idiot. I just always thought BB/Pioli would have had a better read on him than that, but that probably means I'm drinking too much Kool-Aid.
If you look at the Moss contract, Belichick and Pioli were clearly not 100% sold on Moss. Virtually all of his salary (including bonuses) were tied to him making the final 53 man roster. That tells me that they thought it was possible that Moss may not make the final 53 man roster.
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If you look at the Moss contract, Belichick and Pioli were clearly not 100% sold on Moss. Virtually all of his salary (including bonuses) were tied to him making the final 53 man roster. That tells me that they thought it was possible that Moss may not make the final 53 man roster.
That is true. The deal was and still remains a no-brainer.

I guess I just really want Moss to work out. It would be so much fun to watch.
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