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Old 08-27-2007, 12:12 AM   #1
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Another media guy seeming to count Reche out.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:24 AM   #2
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Another media guy seeming to count Reche out.
Where the hell did Tomase get this?

"Rivers, on the other hand, has experience as a blocker, filling the role for five years between the Giants and Jaguars. He caught a career-high 24 passes for the Jags last year, but blocking is the 6-foot-4, 250-pounder’s forte, which should give him an edge over Mills"

First of all, Rivers has never played for the Jaguars. So he certainly didn't catch 24 passes for them last year. Secondly, Rivers was out of the league after camp last year except for ten days he spent with the Saints in Decemeber (not playing in any games). So he didn't catch 24 passes for anyone last year.

In short, once again a media member has not done his homework.

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Old 08-27-2007, 12:42 AM   #3
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Where the hell did Tomase get this?

"Rivers, on the other hand, has experience as a blocker, filling the role for five years between the Giants and Jaguars. He caught a career-high 24 passes for the Jags last year, but blocking is the 6-foot-4, 250-pounder’s forte, which should give him an edge over Mills"

First of all, Rivers has never played for the Jaguars. So he certainly didn't catch 24 passes for them last year. Secondly, Rivers was out of the league after camp last year except for ten days he spent with the Saints in Decemeber (not playing in any games). So he didn't catch 24 passes for anyone last year.

In short, once again a media member has not done his homework.

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I think Tomase got Rivers confused with fellow TE Brian Jones. Brian Jones spent his first two seasons in the league with the Jaguars. Rivers on the other hand caught 24 passes, however it wasn't last season, it was the season before last with the Texans. So basically Tomase got his lame AFC South teams mixed up and was off by a year with one stat.

Tomase's point, though, about #3 TE is spot on. Rivers didn't miss a beat against Carolina on Friday night. He was in with the 1st team offense and did most of the blocking you'd see from the likes of Daniel Graham and Kyle Brady. Mills, meanwhile, did not see a snap until the second half.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:56 AM   #4
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According to this, Rivers caught 24 with the Texans last year and was with the Giants before that:

http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...5784&Submit=Go
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Yes. Another guy who has been watching practice and the games, and has come to the same conclusion a lot of us have: Caldwell is VERY likely on the outs at WR. Here's one of the more obvious - but somehow vociferously ignored - aspects of proof:

"it’s hard to miss that Caldwell has spent the preseason working with the second team"

And yet somehow there's a cadre of posters here, who keep running down the possibility of Washington make the team over Caldwell because Caldwell, they argue, deserves to make the 53 based on "what he did last year." (Ahem.) Meanwhile, after a slow start, KW has worked hard, improved, been around the ball on KR's and PR's, made a few plays in the passing game, and has gotten the attention of the Pats' coaching staff, and most posters here.

It amazes me that so many seem to dismiss the fact that BILL BELICHICK and his coaches are STARTING Kelley Washington and have Caldwell - a guy I defended all last year, and whom I still like - running with the 2's. The writing's on the wall, fellas. Join us here in the light.

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According to this, Rivers caught 24 with the Texans last year and was with the Giants before that:

http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...5784&Submit=Go
That was back in 2005. Last season Rivers was signed by the Raiders during the offseason but was a TC cut, then New Orleans signed him in December but they released him a week later.

http://www.patriots.com/team/index.c...rbio&bio=32573
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Caldwell will likely be cut - Bug eyes needs to find a new team,maybe the Titans grab him or the Vikings

Moss,Stallworth,Welker,Washington,Gaffney are the total final WR Corps

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I don't think the fact that Caldwell had been running with the second team makes it obvious he'll be cut. All that makes obvious is that Washington is being given every chance to supplant him. Whether Washington succeeded is based on evaluations of his play and practices.

Anyhow, the closest thing to a surprise or contrarian viewpoint in Tomase's article, I think, was his belief that Mitchell not only will make the team, but is a near-lock.

And the closest thing to an astute comment was his observation that if Seymour starts out the year on PUP, it opens a spot for Rashad Moore, given that Mike Wright and LeKevin Smith swing between DE and DT.

Well, another interesting comment was that he seems to feel Smith has pretty completely transitioned to DE, like so many other rookie Pat NTs before him.
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Caldwell will likely be cut - Bug eyes needs to find a new team,maybe the Titans grab him or the Vikings

Moss,Stallworth,Welker,Washington,Gaffney are the total final WR Corps

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Nice Caldwell stepped up last year and his catches GOT us to the AFCCG and some Pats fans treat him like garbage. Pretty much the Boston media treated him like ***** all year round.
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With Gaffney,Brown, being hurt Caldwell is the most experienced WR in the Pats system. This has to count for something. I still don't trust Stallworth to make the correct adjustment if there is a blitz or something. If Gaffney is healthy then yes Caldwell is probably gone.
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