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In the 48 hours or so since we got our hands on the contract numbers for Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis, the No. 14 overall pick in the draft, we've heard from league insiders on both sides of the fence -- agents and management -- who were skeptical about the terms.
Said one league insider on Friday: "According to your numbers, he'll be getting much more in every facet than Marshawn Lynch, the twelfth pick, who got a heck of a deal with Buffalo. According to your numbers, he'll be getting $11 million guaranteed on a four year deal versus $10.285 million for Lynch on a five year. And if the Jets buy back years five and six he'll get a total of $27 million guaranteed? No way it can be true. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it. If your numbers are right, [G.M.] Mike Tannenbaum should be fired on the spot."
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Re: jets with the huge overpay on Revis...
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Originally Posted by patsox23
REVIS NUMBERS ARE REAL, AND THEY'RE SPECTACULAR
In the 48 hours or so since we got our hands on the contract numbers for Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis, the No. 14 overall pick in the draft, we've heard from league insiders on both sides of the fence -- agents and management -- who were skeptical about the terms.
Said one league insider on Friday: "According to your numbers, he'll be getting much more in every facet than Marshawn Lynch, the twelfth pick, who got a heck of a deal with Buffalo. According to your numbers, he'll be getting $11 million guaranteed on a four year deal versus $10.285 million for Lynch on a five year. And if the Jets buy back years five and six he'll get a total of $27 million guaranteed? No way it can be true. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it. If your numbers are right, [G.M.] Mike Tannenbaum should be fired on the spot."
Still, yet another league insider views it as a win-win, since the Jets will be paying huge money to Revis only if he becomes a star. And, if he does, the contract likely will be renegotiated after three or four NFL seasons.
"You pay for three positions," said the source, "cornerback, left tackle, and quarterback. By getting the full six years, the Jets won't have to franchise Revis and [left tackle D'Brickashaw] Ferguson in the same year. So if they both work out, they'll be able to keep both of them for the long haul."
What a surprise you left that out of your initial post. 5 years down the road, that sort of money for a star CB will be considered a bargain, just look at what Samuels is asking for this year.
I do not agree with that at all...Yes, pay for QB and sure, no problem with Left tackle, although no need for a kings ransome.
After that - to me it is the "D" line that is more important than any CB.
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I repeat Samuel will not get a huge contract with new england, BB doesn't see corner back as a franchise position only using the tag for leverage he could still be traded.
The pats have done great in the middle and late rounds with their secondary, where do you think Hobbs, Gay, and Samuel came from?
Trust me on this If Samuel wants Bailey money he's going somewhere else no reason to even hope that he'll get a huge deal, if we keep him this year it's only to trade him next for another player or picks.
PS. Revis has no chance covering Moss if that is Mangina's intentions.
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Hey, if the conventional wisdom is that "you pay for QB, LT and CB" only, FANTASTIC for us. Once again, Belichick positions the team well - while other teams overvalue corners, we win Super Bowls with UDFA's starting and Earthwind Moreland getting serious reps. Sorry, rest of the NFL. F off.
Still, yet another league insider views it as a win-win, since the Jets will be paying huge money to Revis only if he becomes a star. And, if he does, the contract likely will be renegotiated after three or four NFL seasons.
"You pay for three positions," said the source, "cornerback, left tackle, and quarterback. By getting the full six years, the Jets won't have to franchise Revis and [left tackle D'Brickashaw] Ferguson in the same year. So if they both work out, they'll be able to keep both of them for the long haul."
What a surprise you left that out of your initial post. 5 years down the road, that sort of money for a star CB will be considered a bargain, just look at what Samuels is asking for this year.
There's some truth to this in my opinion
The bottom line is this: The Jets retain the right to make this a 6 year deal - in which case they will have paid Revis a ton of moolah - but if Revis isn't worth it they all go their separate ways, with the Jets having overpaid for a 4 year deal, when they've previously said they won't do 4 year deals.
As noted the Jets caved in creating a deal reverts to a 4 year deal if Revis plays just 35% of the snaps on defense in any one season (and the fact that they caved doesn't set a good precedent for them). But it looks like the Jets retain the right to buy back the two additional years at $5 million and $11 million respecitvely - or an average of $8 million. So the Jets can make this a 6 year deal down the road - they just have to pay a ton of money to make that happen - which kindof defeats the purpose of a rookie contract as it's usually designed to be VERY cost effective for the team.
They'd be paying him a whopping $27 million guaranteed if it comes to be - but as of today that amount is NOT guaranteed. That's an important distinction. If Revis hasn't played up to high expectations they "let" him walk after 4 years. But I - and they - would contend they wouldn't really want him at that point anyway if he hadn't played up to expectations.
And if he's as good as they hope, they pay another $8 million average a season for years 5 and 6 - possibly reupping him to lessen the cap hit in year 6.
So maybe this isn't the worst compromise for Mangini after all - but to me it still raises the point, on the heels of the Kendall situation, whether Mangini's (and Tannenbaum's) poor player management is going to have repercussions throughout the rest of the league.
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