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"Both feet down, with control." Thank you, NFL
Just saw Mike Pereira, VP of NFL officials on the NFLN.
New interpretation of the "catch AND make a football move" rule.
Now it will be:
"Both feet down with control" (NO supplementary football move)
Yippeeeeeeee!
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Just saw Mike Pereira, VP of NFL officials on the NFLN.
New interpretation of the "catch AND make a football move" rule.
Now it will be:
"Both feet down with control" (NO supplementary football move)
Yippeeeeeeee!
So, if the player has both feet down and the ball is moving a little after he starts heading out of bounds before he gains full control, it's still going to be an incompletion?? Wonderful, just wonderful...
This rule is way more important for what constitutes a fumble than for what constitutes a catch.
By a very wide margin, the most controversial places where this comes up are when control is close and the receiver later loses the ball, and the question is whether it was just a broken up pass or a catch and fumble. I thought the football move rule was actually better for judging fumbles after catches. The notion that a guy can have a ball momentarily in his grasp, with both feet down, that is then knocked away and called a fumble is not good to me. I think there should be a football move before sufficient possession is called to call it a fumble.
If this really is the new interpretation, I guarantee it's going to really jack some team up this year -- some play is going to look like a routine broken up pass and it's going to be called a fumble after replay because this is the new rule, even though in regular speed it's not anything anyone would regard as a fumble.
This rule is way more important for what constitutes a fumble than for what constitutes a catch.
By a very wide margin, the most controversial places where this comes up are when control is close and the receiver later loses the ball, and the question is whether it was just a broken up pass or a catch and fumble. I thought the football move rule was actually better for judging fumbles after catches. The notion that a guy can have a ball momentarily in his grasp, with both feet down, that is then knocked away and called a fumble is not good to me. I think there should be a football move before sufficient possession is called to call it a fumble.
If this really is the new interpretation, I guarantee it's going to really jack some team up this year -- some play is going to look like a routine broken up pass and it's going to be called a fumble after replay because this is the new rule, even though in regular speed it's not anything anyone would regard as a fumble.
They'll probably call fumbles consistently with whatever they did last year. The rules are still subjective enough that they can do that. But we'll nevertheless be looking for what you predict.
This rule is way more important for what constitutes a fumble than for what constitutes a catch.
By a very wide margin, the most controversial places where this comes up are when control is close and the receiver later loses the ball, and the question is whether it was just a broken up pass or a catch and fumble. I thought the football move rule was actually better for judging fumbles after catches. The notion that a guy can have a ball momentarily in his grasp, with both feet down, that is then knocked away and called a fumble is not good to me. I think there should be a football move before sufficient possession is called to call it a fumble.
If this really is the new interpretation, I guarantee it's going to really jack some team up this year -- some play is going to look like a routine broken up pass and it's going to be called a fumble after replay because this is the new rule, even though in regular speed it's not anything anyone would regard as a fumble.
Agree with all of this. To point out a somewhat recent example, I remember the S.D. divisional game where Gates appeared to come down with a pass near the goal line and Hobbs tackled him jarring the ball loose. It was ultimately ruled an incomplete pass. It looks like this year that would have been a fumble most likely.
We would have benefited on this particular play, but generally I feel like this is going to be a bad rule change.
They'll probably call fumbles consistently with whatever they did last year. The rules are still subjective enough that they can do that. But we'll nevertheless be looking for what you predict.
The key thing is that you can't have a fumble unless you have a reception first. By eliminating the ridiculous and subjective "football move" criterium, more plays will be ruled a completion and a fumble which would have been called an incomplete pass under the previous rule.
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Re: "Both Feet Down,With Control" Thank You,NFL
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The key thing is that you can't have a fumble unless you have a reception first. By eliminating the ridiculous and subjective "football move" criterium, more plays will be ruled a completion and a fumble which would have been called an incomplete pass under the previous rule.
The key thing is that you can't have a fumble unless you have a reception first. By eliminating the ridiculous and subjective "football move" criterium, more plays will be ruled a completion and a fumble which would have been called an incomplete pass under the previous rule.
Also, they really took it to the extreme last year, where a guy would catch the ball, take almost two full steps and have it come out on the way down and it was still incomplete.
Defenses will take the extra fumbles any day, even if it means a few extra completions. Almost all fumbles by WRs are recovered by the D. It turns an incompletion into a INT effectively.
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