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Old 07-09-2007, 03:22 PM   #11
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dude...he never materialized into a topnotch #3 guy...or even #4 for that matter...
Yeah, but he made a handful of big plays in his Pats career. What about his big TD catch in the 1st quarter of the playoff game against Tennessee.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:49 PM   #12
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dude...he never materialized into a topnotch #3 guy...or even #4 for that matter...
dude... he never materialized. .


still, if there's a rash of WR and KR injuries in the pre-season the Texans might get some trade value out of him... one, maybe even two cases of Gatorade!
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:12 PM   #13
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Yeah, but he made a handful of big plays in his Pats career. What about his big TD catch in the 1st quarter of the playoff game against Tennessee.
The problem with BJ is that nearly all of his big plays happened in his rookie season. The only one that I can think of after 2003 was the Seattle catch. In 2003 there was a litany of key plays beyond the Indy TD and the TN TD. Here are just a few that I remember:

* A Troy Brown-type strip after a goal line int thrown by Brady. NE subsequently got 3 extra points they would not have gotten in a close call against Hou. Bethel also had a TD in this game.

* The second big return against Indy after Indy had come all the way back.

* The big return against Denver after Denver scored a TD just before half-time. NE put a figgie up and the 17-13 deficit seemed much easier to overcome.

But Johnson was worse every single year. Even his KRs became average to below average. I'm not so sure if NE wins the SB without him in 2003, but he earned every bit of the maligning by being a jackass.
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:19 PM   #14
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dude...he never materialized into a topnotch #3 guy...or even #4 for that matter...
the long pass against the titans is the only game changing play i remember along with the kick off return against the colts before half time
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the long pass against the titans is the only game changing play i remember along with the kick off return against the colts before half time
The long catch against the Seahawks was game changing too, IIRC.

I always thought that Bethel would develop into a real deep threat receiver if only he could stay healthy. But I obviously over-estimated his attitude and work ethic. If they had been better, I think that the Patriots would have stuck with him.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:58 PM   #16
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thats his best spot right now for an opportunity. Andre Johnson is 1 starter..whos the other. If he worked harder at the mental part..he can be special. Hes fast..looks built..strong. Hes made some nice plays on offense and special teams. He needs to be consistent with hands and learn playbooks and routes.
Agreed. it's his best chance to catch on and stay with a team for more than a year, provided he does more than jog to the huddle and say, "I'm open deep." With his size and quickness, he should be a better possession guy, shouldn't he?

People on this board have been tough, but he's had plenty of opportunities to gain success. When the problem' s not athleticism, it has to be something else.
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Wasn'r he cut from the Eagles because he couldn't pass a physical?
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I 'll always remember the return he took all the way for a TD at the Colts game,in Indy.That was a great game of football!Anyway,good luck to him,as another poster said,if his head could catch up with his physical skills(his speed anyway),he would be a great WR.
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Good for him. Still in the league.
So begins the Matt Schaub to Bethel Johnson era in Houston.
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I'm not sure which the bigger surprise is here. That Bethel got another shot with an NFL team or that Bobby Grier still has a job in the NFL?
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