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o.k. Its a no brainer as to whom is the best coach of all time for the Patriots,Its our current beloved Bill Belichick.
However from there goes the discussion of who fits as second and third best coach ever to be the HC here
You can argue Bill Parcells was second best coach and yes,he did turn around a sad franchise,with Kraft's help of course...but
I think Raymond Berry should be considered 2nd best of all - He took a team as bad in early 80s and with a shaky QB and took them to the Super Bowl after the team stuggled immensely under Ehrhardt.
So if you ask me the top 3 head coaches ever to coach the Patriots in order..
1) Bill Belichick
2) Raymond Berry
3) Bill Parcells
If you are under 35 you probably don't remember much of Berry's leadership on that 80s team which was very well respected.
Also note that even though Parcells is a HOF coach does not put him 2nd best overall,IMO - After all he was only 32-32 in his tenure here while Berry was 48-39 -Thats 9 games over .500
Agree? - Discuss your opinion
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Dick MacPherson - missed his calling as a cheer-leading coordinator. Would have been one of the best of all time IMHO.
"Pumped and Jacked" Carroll - Somehow was shocked when NE would go into half-time down 17-6, make no adjustments, and then lose 34-10. Bonus points for consistently winning 1-2 games less than they shoud have.
Rod Rust - Ack. I'm done.
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Re: The top 3 best Patriots head coaches of all time
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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA
o.k. Its a no brainer as to whom is the best coach of all time for the Patriots,Its our current beloved Bill Belichick.
However from there goes the discussion of who fits as second and third best coach ever to be the HC here
You can argue Bill Parcells was second best coach and yes,he did turn around a sad franchise,with Kraft's help of course...but
I think Raymond Berry should be considered 2nd best of all - He took a team as bad in early 80s and with a shaky QB and took them to the Super Bowl after the team stuggled immensely under Ehrhardt.
So if you ask me the top 3 head coaches ever to coach the Patriots in order..
1) Bill Belichick
2) Raymond Berry
3) Bill Parcells
If you are under 35 you probably don't remember much of Berry's leadership on that 80s team which was very well respected.
Also note that even though Parcells is a HOF coach does not put him 2nd best overall,IMO - After all he was only 32-32 in his tenure here while Berry was 48-39 -Thats 9 games over .500
Dick MacPherson - missed his calling as a cheer-leading coordinator. Would have been one of the best of all time IMHO.
"Pumped and Jacked" Carroll - Somehow was shocked when NE would go into half-time down 17-6, make no adjustments, and then lose 34-10. Bonus points for consistently winning 1-2 games less than they shoud have.
Rod Rust - Ack. I'm done.
Carroll was not a very good HC here but remember,At least he was a + on the Wins,Losses side of HC - I think he was 5 games over .500 after his firing.,More than I can say of the likes of McPherson,Ehrhardt and Rust (whose last name fit his head coaching talent)
Re: The top 3 best Patriots head coaches of all time
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Originally Posted by patsgo
chuck fairbanks gets my nod over berry
Chuck Fairbanks should be considered 4th best of all time - He did have 2 less wins than Berry with the same amount of losses but what really seperates the 2 was while Fairbanks was coaching he had what was arguably the Best Patriots team of all time in 1976 and could not bring them a championship - Both Parcells and Berry had simply horrible teams that they brought back into respectability - IMO many head coaches would have done well with those mid-70s Patriots teams who were so talent laden.
Re: The top 3 best Patriots head coaches of all time
1.Belichick
2.Parcells
3.Fairbanks...He not only was a very good coach,he was great at judgeing talent,go back and look at his drafts. He bought the grocerys,and cooked them.
Re: The top 3 best Patriots head coaches of all time
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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA
Chuck Fairbanks should be considered 4th best of all time - He did have 2 less wins than Berry with the same amount of losses but what really seperates the 2 was while Fairbanks was coaching he had what was arguably the Best Patriots team of all time in 1976 and could not bring them a championship - Both Parcells and Berry had simply horrible teams that they brought back into respectability - IMO many head coaches would have done well with those mid-70s Patriots teams who were so talent laden.
it was fairbanks who brought all the players in, and it was sullivan who wouldnt pay the players that hurt the team , when fairbanks was brought in they were horrible, dick stienberg brought all the players in for berry
Re: The top 3 best Patriots head coaches of all time
1.) Belichick
2.) Fairbanks
3.) Parcells
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Re: The top 3 best Patriots head coaches of all time
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Originally Posted by patsgo
it was fairbanks who brought all the players in, and it was sullivan who wouldnt pay the players that hurt the team , when fairbanks was brought in they were horrible, dick stienberg brought all the players in for berry
if it wasnt for ben drieth he would of brought them a championship