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Old 06-25-2007, 05:03 PM   #21
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Can anyone make a plausible argument of he makes the team?
I can. BILL BELICHICK HAS SAID SO. That's my argument. What's the point of this?
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:08 PM   #22
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BB also told Bledsoe he would be given equal practice time when he was healthy again so that he could fairly compete for the starting job.

It didn't happen that way though did it? I'm not saying that BB made the wrong decision - to limit Bledsoe's practice time in order to properly prepare Brady. In fact, I agree with the decision entirely.

The point is that things change. Just because BB says something today doesn't mean he won't do the opposite later if it is the best thing for the team at that time.

This is so COMPLETELY NOT the same situation. You're also basing that on Drew's POV of a situation that was far more complex, but we'll set that aside. This situation is totally different. Truly, this is bordering on idiotic.
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IF Troy Brown is healthy, then Troy Brown will be on this team. Period.....I have no doubt, none whatsoever.
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Chad Jackson, a first round draft pick with lots of potential? The choice is obvious.
Chad Jackson was a 2nd round draft choice who maybe out for the year, while Brown will be ready to play at the beginning of the season... Who would YOU play?
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I might get ripped for saying this, but he's either been invisible or choked in two straight playoff runs.

Belichick has not shyed away from making tough decision before, but I think a healthy Chad Jackson is more valuable in December than Troy Brown.

The jury is still out on CJ here. With how his rehab is progressing, he could be 100% by early October. This is a second round draft pick who has, at the least, the potential to be a solid #2 guy. I think if you add up the dollars and cents here, it doesn't look good for Troy.
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I don't think so, I think Troy has been one of the more reliable but I don't think he gets as many catches because the defenses cover him up good knowing he's Brady's 'go to' guy in the crutch... Just my opinion on it.. Just think, we wouldn't have even played the Colts in the Championship game if it wasn't for Troy Brown..
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Just think, we wouldn't have even played the Colts in the Championship game if it wasn't for Troy Brown..
I'm not sure I agree with that completely. Troy performed well last year, but he was an afterthought to Caldwell and Gaffney in the playoffs. Actually, one could argue that his miscommunication with Brady cost us the game. I don't know whose fault that was, Brady definitely didn't have his best game, but factor that in with the muffed punt in Denver and my confidence level isn't exactly in the stratosphere. And if you want to go further than that, you could say that if we had signed Deion my username might be "OneForTheThumb."
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This is so COMPLETELY NOT the same situation. You're also basing that on Drew's POV of a situation that was far more complex, but we'll set that aside. This situation is totally different. Truly, this is bordering on idiotic.
I don't see how it is so different. BB said something but then the situation later caused him to go against his previous statement and do what was best for the team.

I can see that happening this time as well (that is assuming that BB was serious to begin with - He can't exactly say Troy is done now can he?). If he did indeed mean it, then what happens if the other WRs outplay Troy to the point that BB know it is not in the best interest of the team to put him on the final roster? What happens if a number of fringe players from any position over achieve on STs or otherwise carve out a role that is more important?

Even if he meant it (something I am not sure of), BB is going to do what is best for the team when push comes to shove. Right now, I don't see Troy making it.

You obviously do see him making it. Great! Some posters agree with you and some do not. If it were indeed bordering on idiotic, I don't think the responses would be 50-50 on the subject.
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Agree completely...
Chad Jackson was a 2nd round draft choice who maybe out for the year, while Brown will be ready to play at the beginning of the season... Who would YOU play?
I was wrong on the draft round. I think I got confused because some said at the time that he was projected to go in the first round and we were lucky to get him in round 2.

Anyway, I read recently that both Brown and Jackson were still healing and that both might be ready for the start of the season but that neither was a sure thing to be ready by then.

If I have that wrong, by all means correct me.

The best argument I have heard so far is that ST could play a larger part in the selection than pure talent at WR. I can buy that. I do think that the current mix of new players (Moss, Stallworth, and Wash

ington) combined with mediocre starters who are versed in the system (Caldwell, Gaffney, Brown) makes me think that we will carry more of those pure WR types than we might otherwise. Unless the newbies catch on fast (including timing with Brady), it will be hard to let Caldwell and/or Gaffney go.
In that situation, I see Brown behind Caldwell and Gaffney in the role of vet with familiarity, although he does have versatility the other two don't have.
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I might get ripped for saying this, but he's either been invisible or choked in two straight playoff runs.
The biggest play in the SD game was made by Troy Brown.
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He's a smart player. That was a phenomenally heads-up play that potentially saved the game. His performance at his actual position was a distant third in the playoffs to Caldwell and Gaffney.
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