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Old 05-06-2007, 09:37 AM   #1
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Q: Did the Patriots show interest in you leading up to this?

JR: Yes Sir. I got several phone calls from them saying that they were interested and they were going to try to pick me up, if not in the late rounds then as a free agent. Like I said, I'm just really glad they picked me up.
I'm not quite sure what to make of this. Think about it for a second: the only difference in contracts between, say, 93 and 193 is the size of the signing bonus--and that ain't much. So what was it about this year's class that meant there was basically nobody after Meriweather that the Pats felt was worth taking on Day 1?

Even more mystifying, of course, is the fact that--of the day 2 picks the Pats started with--they actually picked players with all of them. Some people here have claimed that they signed players they'd otherwise have picked as UDFAs--but then, if the player gets cut, the Pats get a cap hit on the signing bonus (granted, it ain't much, but it's still equivalent to carrying a player on the PS for the entire season).

So--any thoughts on what all of this means?
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I don't get your point the Bradley thing, he was gone before the #3 we traded - maybe we keep the pick and take him if he's there.
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I don't get the Bradley thing, he was gone before the #3 we traded - maybe we keep the pick and take him if he's there.
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OK. Somewhat bad example. But my point remains: the Pats as much as said "there's no one we want in the second round." And if they really wanted Bradley, they could have jumped up 10-20 spots for him, but they didn't.
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It appears that they would have picked him if he was there. But Philly took him instead. What I find baffling is if they really wanted the kid why didn't they just trade up for him. They had the ammunition to do it.
I don't think that they wanted him THAT badly, IMHO.

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OK. Somewhat bad example. But my point remains: the Pats as much as said "there's no one we want in the second round." And if they really wanted Bradley, they could have jumped up 10-20 spots for him, but they didn't.
How were they going to jump up 10-20 spots in the 3rd with a bunch of 5ths and 6ths ? They could have traded both 4ths to do that but we got Brown and Moss with those, and I'm happy how those were used.

A #5 and a #6 maybe could have moved us up 4 spots to get ahead of Philly if we thought they were taking him.
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How were they going to jump up 10-20 spots in the 3rd with a bunch of 5ths and 6ths ? They could have traded both 4ths to do that but we got Brown and Moss with those, and I'm happy how those were used.

A #5 and a #6 maybe could have moved us up 4 spots to get ahead of Philly if we thought they were taking him.
That's true. But our 5th was a compensation pick that we could not trade and two of our sixth rounders were compensation picks too. Maybe they just didn't have enough to trade up because most of our day two picks were compensation picks, and by then it appears that the Moss trade was heating up too.

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That's true. But our 5th was a compensation pick that we could not trade and two of our sixth rounders were compensation picks too.
Right, that adds to the point that trading up without using our #4s wasn't viable. One #4 went for Moss, I doubt anyone would want that used differently. And Brown is the sole Day Two guy who I like quite a bit, I prefer him and the Raiders' #3 next year to Bradley.
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How were they going to jump up 10-20 spots in the 3rd with a bunch of 5ths and 6ths ? They could have traded both 4ths to do that but we got Brown and Moss with those, and I'm happy how those were used.
If they wanted Bradley that badly--and the evidence suggests they didn't--they would have made a trade up to get him (maybe not 10-20, maybe just 5 or so); it may well have involved a 2008 pick (they already had SF's first, so it wouldn't sting as much).

It amazes me, though, that at this point anyone is still willing to trade with the Pats at all.
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OK. Somewhat bad example. But my point remains: the Pats as much as said "there's no one we want in the second round."
No, they didn't. Pioli specifically said there were players they liked. He said they got better value by trading.

If I go into my local BBQ joint, and BBQ chicken is the special of the day, real cheap, I'm likely to get it. It doesn't mean there are no ribs on the menu that I want, or that I don't like ribs. It means I got more value for the chicken. Next time I might go for the ribs. Unless pulled pork is on special.
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