Belichick on Moss (2005) - New England Patriots Forums

drakesta101 · 05-03-2007, 10:05 PM

http://www.patriots.com/mediacenter/...=12718&pcid=85

For those who want to get a little more pumped about the trade....His talk on Moss begins around the middle of the press conference.

PatsFanInVa · 05-03-2007, 10:47 PM

Great read... I remember hearing BB rhapsodize about Moss in the past, but I always figured, "nah. smokescreen." Sure does look different in retrospect.

Kind of funny how we just assume that, so if they want, they can be absolutely straightforward and hide in plain sight...

PFnV

bishbash · 05-03-2007, 10:47 PM

Good find!

Q: From a talent standpoint, how difficult is it to prepare for a guy like Moss?

BB: He's one of the best receivers in the league. There is no question about that. He has all the skills. He is a tall guy. For a tall receiver, he's got exceptional quickness, and lateral quickness. He changes direction very well. He can explode out of his cuts, which you usually see more of that from shorter receivers, guys that have a lower center of gravity, that are closer to the ground. But he can really bend his knees, bend his ankles, keep his weight low, and then explode out of those cuts on slant routes, in-cuts, comebacks. He's very good at stop-and-go routes, which again is unusual for player of his size, where he can go, stop and then go again and then accelerate and beat the defender on the second part of the route. [He has] excellent hands. [He] can catch the ball away from his body and extend. He is not a body catcher at all. He has great timing on the deep balls, so he can jump high and go up and take the ball at the high point. A lot of receivers that are shorter sometimes can out-jump or just out-time the jump with the defender and get the ball. Moss has a combination of height, long arms, and good timing and jumping ability and excellent hands to go up and get the ball. He's good after the catch. He's very fast. He can get the ball on a lot of under routes and crossing patterns and things like that and outrun linebackers and safeties and pick up extra yards down the sideline. This is a very talented player. He doesn't really have any real weakness and his game, man, zone, deep routes, short routes, catching the ball, run after the catch. [He is] a smart guy. [He] can get off the jam. He's very quick on the line of scrimmage. He is a hard guy to jam and hold up. He's pretty good.

Q: Is he different from Terrell Owens?

BB: I would say yes. Owens is a bigger, more physical, probably a little stronger after the catch. He doesn't have Moss' vertical speed. I don't know does. There's not many players in the league to have Moss' vertical speed. A little different skill set, but in their own way, both are certainly in the top four or five receivers in the league.

Q: Before he came in the league was there any player who would replicate all those skills you named?

BB: I don't think I could think of a guy right off the top of my head. [Lynn] Swann had those kind of ball skills and that kind of jumping ability. But, he didn't have anywhere close to Moss' speed.... He's pretty unique. What's really unique is his height and then the quickness that he has, with as tall and angular as he is, the quickness and explosion that he has on his cuts and then the ball skills would go with it. If you can win with speed, and you can win with quickness and you can win with hands, even though the guy is on him, he can still stretch, reach out and catch the ball even though the defender is draped all over him. That's a pretty good combination of skills.

Q: Could Moss play for you?

BB: Why not?

Remix 6 · 05-03-2007, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsFanInVa

Great read... I remember hearing BB rhapsodize about Moss in the past, but I always figured, "nah. smokescreen." Sure does look different in retrospect.

Kind of funny how we just assume that, so if they want, they can be absolutely straightforward and hide in plain sight...

PFnV

i never believed BB lies/exagerrates whathe says about players. If he didnt feel the way about some players why would he take him to applaud who they are. If he didnt feel that way..he wouldnt say anything. I believe when BB says: Moss is the best..when he said Ernie Sims would of fit somewhere in the middle of a 3-4 despite size..when he praises TO..and other players.

***spacecrime*** · 05-03-2007, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bishbash

For a tall receiver, he's got exceptional quickness, and lateral quickness. He changes direction very well. He can explode out of his cuts, which you usually see more of that from shorter receivers, guys that have a lower center of gravity, that are closer to the ground. But he can really bend his knees, bend his ankles, keep his weight low, and then explode out of those cuts on slant routes, in-cuts, comebacks. He's very good at stop-and-go routes, which again is unusual for player of his size, where he can go, stop and then go again and then accelerate and beat the defender on the second part of the route. [He has] excellent hands.

So who has been saying he can't run routes, that all he has is go-route ability?

Ahriman · 05-03-2007, 11:15 PM

I remember that press conference. Thought about it the other day when the trade went down and how much BB gushed over Moss.

SeanBruschi54 · 05-03-2007, 11:39 PM

Good times these days are.

Enjoy them while they last boys.

Terry Glenn is a cowgirl · 05-04-2007, 12:58 AM

I want Rick Reilly (or whoever the assclown's name is) 2 wear a few eggs on his face...

***Mike the Brit*** · 05-04-2007, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahriman

I remember that press conference. Thought about it the other day when the trade went down and how much BB gushed over Moss.

Me too -- see sig! Thanks for tracking it down.

***DarrylS*** · 05-04-2007, 05:18 AM

Bill is a genius, somewhere in the recesses of his brain he had a plan.. waited for the opportunity and then grabbed it. All Moss would have to do to be convinced to come here is listen to this interview. He speaks about Moss the same way he speaks about guys like Jason Taylor, Urlacher etc. Not sure I have ever heard him utter a harsh word about any player in the NFL, pretty good stategy; do not give the other team any bulletin board material or make them feel reluctant about joining this team.

05-03-2007, 10:05 PM	#1
drakesta101 Practice Squad Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 323	Belichick on Moss (2005) http://www.patriots.com/mediacenter/...=12718&pcid=85 For those who want to get a little more pumped about the trade....His talk on Moss begins around the middle of the press conference.

05-03-2007, 10:47 PM	#2
PatsFanInVa Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,604	Re: Belichick on Moss (2005) Great read... I remember hearing BB rhapsodize about Moss in the past, but I always figured, "nah. smokescreen." Sure does look different in retrospect. Kind of funny how we just assume that, so if they want, they can be absolutely straightforward and hide in plain sight... PFnV

05-03-2007, 10:47 PM	#3
bishbash Practice Squad Join Date: May 2006 Location: NH Posts: 375	Re: Belichick on Moss (2005) Good find! Q: From a talent standpoint, how difficult is it to prepare for a guy like Moss? BB: He's one of the best receivers in the league. There is no question about that. He has all the skills. He is a tall guy. For a tall receiver, he's got exceptional quickness, and lateral quickness. He changes direction very well. He can explode out of his cuts, which you usually see more of that from shorter receivers, guys that have a lower center of gravity, that are closer to the ground. But he can really bend his knees, bend his ankles, keep his weight low, and then explode out of those cuts on slant routes, in-cuts, comebacks. He's very good at stop-and-go routes, which again is unusual for player of his size, where he can go, stop and then go again and then accelerate and beat the defender on the second part of the route. [He has] excellent hands. [He] can catch the ball away from his body and extend. He is not a body catcher at all. He has great timing on the deep balls, so he can jump high and go up and take the ball at the high point. A lot of receivers that are shorter sometimes can out-jump or just out-time the jump with the defender and get the ball. Moss has a combination of height, long arms, and good timing and jumping ability and excellent hands to go up and get the ball. He's good after the catch. He's very fast. He can get the ball on a lot of under routes and crossing patterns and things like that and outrun linebackers and safeties and pick up extra yards down the sideline. This is a very talented player. He doesn't really have any real weakness and his game, man, zone, deep routes, short routes, catching the ball, run after the catch. [He is] a smart guy. [He] can get off the jam. He's very quick on the line of scrimmage. He is a hard guy to jam and hold up. He's pretty good. Q: Is he different from Terrell Owens? BB: I would say yes. Owens is a bigger, more physical, probably a little stronger after the catch. He doesn't have Moss' vertical speed. I don't know does. There's not many players in the league to have Moss' vertical speed. A little different skill set, but in their own way, both are certainly in the top four or five receivers in the league. Q: Before he came in the league was there any player who would replicate all those skills you named? BB: I don't think I could think of a guy right off the top of my head. [Lynn] Swann had those kind of ball skills and that kind of jumping ability. But, he didn't have anywhere close to Moss' speed.... He's pretty unique. What's really unique is his height and then the quickness that he has, with as tall and angular as he is, the quickness and explosion that he has on his cuts and then the ball skills would go with it. If you can win with speed, and you can win with quickness and you can win with hands, even though the guy is on him, he can still stretch, reach out and catch the ball even though the defender is draped all over him. That's a pretty good combination of skills. Q: Could Moss play for you? BB: Why not? Last edited by bishbash; 05-03-2007 at 10:51 PM.

05-03-2007, 11:15 PM	#6
Ahriman Third String But Playing on Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 658	Re: Belichick on Moss (2005) I remember that press conference. Thought about it the other day when the trade went down and how much BB gushed over Moss. __________________ "I have a microscope and my microscope is very big." - Randy Moss

05-03-2007, 11:39 PM	#7
SeanBruschi54 In the Starting Line-up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Bedford, MA Posts: 2,996	Re: Belichick on Moss (2005) Good times these days are. Enjoy them while they last boys.

05-04-2007, 12:58 AM	#8
Terry Glenn is a cowgirl Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,884	Re: Belichick on Moss (2005) I want Rick Reilly (or whoever the assclown's name is) 2 wear a few eggs on his face...

05-04-2007, 05:18 AM	#10
*DarrylS* Grad of BB University Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a very special place Posts: 19,723	Re: Belichick on Moss (2005) Bill is a genius, somewhere in the recesses of his brain he had a plan.. waited for the opportunity and then grabbed it. All Moss would have to do to be convinced to come here is listen to this interview. He speaks about Moss the same way he speaks about guys like Jason Taylor, Urlacher etc. Not sure I have ever heard him utter a harsh word about any player in the NFL, pretty good stategy; do not give the other team any bulletin board material or make them feel reluctant about joining this team. __________________ "Stats are for losers. Final score is for winners." Billl Belichick

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