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Old 04-05-2007, 04:51 PM   #1
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It has been widely discussed, both here and in the media, how incompetent Lions GM Matt Millen is, and how unbelievable it is that he still has his job. It is therefore interesting to read that Lions owner Bill Ford, Jr., who also is Executive Chairman of Ford Motor Co., isn't doing any better managing for the car company. Read more here:

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Struggling Ford Motor Co., which posted a record $12.7 billion net loss in 2006, gave its new CEO Alan Mulally $28 million for four months on the job, according to the company's proxy statement filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission Thursday.
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Executive Chairman Bill Ford Jr., who had held the CEO post until Mulally was hired, had agreed in May 2005 not to receive any pay, bonus or stock grants until the company's core automotive operations returned to profitability.
But the proxy listed Ford's compensation for 2006 as $10.5 million, down 21 percent from $13.3 million listed in 2005. Most of that compensation for 2006 was the estimated value of earlier stock grants and options that vested and were recognized during the year, according to the filing. The great-grandson of the company's founder had started as CEO of the company in 2001.
No wonder both his empires are struggling.
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Old 04-05-2007, 05:26 PM   #2
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It's really got to be killing Millen this year -- if you believe the pundits, Calvin Johnson is the true can't-miss WR the Lions have been looking for the past few years.

If the Raiders go QB -- which they should -- then the Lions will have a chance for Johnson. However, they've got so many needs now given their poor management that I doubt they could get the public to swallow drafting ANOTHER WR first, even if Johson is that good.
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It has been widely discussed, both here and in the media, how incompetent Lions GM Matt Millen is, and how unbelievable it is that he still has his job. It is therefore interesting to read that Lions owner Bill Ford, Jr., who also is Executive Chairman of Ford Motor Co., isn't doing any better managing for the car company. Read more here:

http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/05/news...ion=2007040517


No wonder both his empires are struggling.
Ford family are wealthy beyond a shadow of a doubt.

They will still be around for a long time.

If I believe correctly, they are 1 of the 300 club.
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I can't comment on the economics story, but I do feel for Detroit fans. They have to put up with management that is criminally incompetent. I've said it before, but for the life of me, I can't think how Matt Millen is still in a job.
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I can't comment on the economics story, but I do feel for Detroit fans. They have to put up with management that is criminally incompetent. I've said it before, but for the life of me, I can't think how Matt Millen is still in a job.
Fortunately for his overall value, he is reputed to be an awesome mistress.
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If I believe correctly, they are 1 of the 300 club.
They fought off Xerxes at Thermopylae..?!? Wow...
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There's a lot more to the Ford issue than the Ford family. They don't know how to run a football team- that's for sure- but the company's struggles are much larger than the Fords. GM and Chrysler are in the same boat here. Without getting into too heated a debate, I can tell you that the unions absolutely OWN them in every negotiation, and the companies are struggling with ridiculous pension plans and retiree/surviving spouse benefit costs. There's a lot wrong with our economy here in metro-Detroit, and a good percentage is due to union workers who had over inflated salaries, were bought out/laid off, and suddenly had the realization that they would have to take a MASSIVE pay cut to get ANY job. These same people were living in $300-500K homes on interest only ARMS that are adjusting, and have killed the housing market. I see numerous cases every day of people who were skilled trade workers for the auto unions making $30-40/hr applying en masse to some of my entry level $9-14/hr positions I post. It's sad. The Fords aren't alone.

As for Millen, well, he must have photos or something. I've never seen a region have absolute HATE for a man so much before. I really hope he screws the draft up again and picks Quinn, because I'll be entertained for a few more years. Did you know he commuted from Pennsylvania via jet for the first few years on the job? He didn't even live in the state!
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I really hope he screws the draft up again and picks Quinn, because I'll be entertained for a few more years. Did you know he commuted from Pennsylvania via jet for the first few years on the job? He didn't even live in the state!
So you believe Quinn will be a bust? What was your opinion of Matt Leinart? How would you compare the 2?
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So you believe Quinn will be a bust? What was your opinion of Matt Leinart? How would you compare the 2?
Yes. I recruited Quinn out of HS. I do not think he will be a great NFL QB at all. Leinart? I like Leinart. We recruited him as well (we were close to landing him...) I think Leinart possesses the "it" intangible that a QB needs to win. I hope the AZ franchise doesn't do him a disservice, but if he can win there, he can win anywhere. His measurables are also better in my mind than Quinn. I think the game is going to be much faster at this level than Quinn anticipates, and he's struggled with the faster teams he's faced. Against good competition, Quinn has been decidedly mediocre. There is no Navy and Air Force on an NFL schedule.
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There is no Navy and Air Force on an NFL schedule.
However, there are the Detroit Lions. At least the service academies have an excuse.
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