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***QuiGon*** · 04-06-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Michigan Dave

Yes. I recruited Quinn out of HS. I do not think he will be a great NFL QB at all. Leinart? I like Leinart. We recruited him as well (we were close to landing him...) I think Leinart possesses the "it" intangible that a QB needs to win. I hope the AZ franchise doesn't do him a disservice, but if he can win there, he can win anywhere. His measurables are also better in my mind than Quinn. I think the game is going to be much faster at this level than Quinn anticipates, and he's struggled with the faster teams he's faced. Against good competition, Quinn has been decidedly mediocre. There is no Navy and Air Force on an NFL schedule.

Now now... every NCAA team has a few creampuffs on their rotation so you can't use that as an adequate measuring stick...

Michigan Dave · 04-06-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by QuiGon

Now now... every NCAA team has a few creampuffs on their rotation so you can't use that as an adequate measuring stick...

No, I'm not. But Quinn's play against elite competition is poor.

Look at his big games as a senior:

MICHIGAN 47-21 L
24-48 234 yds 3 INT/3TD

USC 44-24 L
22-45 274 yds 3 TD/0INT

LSU 41-14 L
15-35 148 yds 2TD/2INT

Quinn padded his stats in a QB friendly offense, and disappeared in big games. His "marquee" game was the loss to USC in 2005, and even then he was only 19-35 for 254 1/1. His 2 marquee wins were over Michigan in 04 and 05. In both games, Michigan did more to lose the game than Brady did to win. He finished 05 a respectable 19-30 140 2/0. In 04, he was AWFUL. 10-20, 178, 2 TD/3 INT.

I would definitely avoid Quinn in the early first round.

***QuiGon*** · 04-06-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Michigan Dave

Quinn padded his stats in a QB friendly offense, and disappeared in big games. His "marquee" game was the loss to USC in 2005, and even then he was only 19-35 for 254 1/1. His 2 marquee wins were over Michigan in 04 and 05. In both games, Michigan did more to lose the game than Brady did to win. He finished 05 a respectable 19-30 140 2/0. In 04, he was AWFUL. 10-20, 178, 2 TD/3 INT.

I would definitely avoid Quinn in the early first round.

Oh, I agree. I like the kid... I really do... but he made an entire career based on three plays:

1) Throw left side to Jeff Szarmadjia
2) Throw right side to Jeff Szarmadja
3) Throw across center to Jeff Szarmadja

So I don't find him worthy of a top 1st round QB selection.