PonyExpress

When Adam V.'s playing days are done, he will likely move to Florida or another warm weather climate where he can pursue his passion for golf. He may find his way into a network gig, or maybe travel the world and the seven seas. But if all those plans fall through, and he decides New England isn't so bad after all, and a job in the local media market seems appealing... I hope he thinks twice, and stays away. I realize other fans will find my views extreme, but as irrational as it may seem to some, any feelings I had for Adam V. the player evaporated this season. Watching him wearing the Colt uniform, happily beating the Pats in a heartbreaking game, and winning the SB as a Colt: those events ended the appreciation I once had for him as a Patriot player. He won another SB this year, but it came with a price: the gratitude of at least one Patriot fan for past glory. Don't come home again, Adam.

The Gr8est

I can only speak for myself, but passions fade after time, and Adam WILL be in the HOF. If he wants to come back to retire, I think he would be welcomed.

But that's for a later time, we already have a kicker.

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"But in a way, the discussion about whether the Patriots are running up scores is really about competing ethics. It's about gamesmanship vs. sportsmanship. The gamesman is exclusively focused on winning. Rules are something to be maximally exploited, and the final score is an expression of superiority. The sportsman is more focused playing the game the way it "ought" to be played, and is perhaps even willing to lose in the name of sportsmanship." - Sally Jenkins

unoriginal

Well, I guess what you're trying to say is, if he hadn't of won an AFC Championship, it would have all worked out all right in the end.

Course, if he had never won another AFC Championship, we would have all laughed at him.

He did his job for us, he did his job for them, without resorting to any of the taunting or shenanigans of his predecessor, the liquored up idiot kicker. Good for him. That much closer to the Hall - where he'll probably wear a Pats uniform, barring unforeseen heroics in Indy.

When can I expect the inevitable Dan Klecko and Dexter Reid "cheatin'" threads?

upstater1

I think Adam realizes he's cut ties with New England, he prefers it this way, and he doesn't care. That's fine with me.

But I'll also tell you this: Adam will not enter the Hall of Fame unless something a lot more dramatic happens in his career. A couple amazing kicks doesn't land you in the Hall of Fame.

He is, after all, just a kicker.

sdaniels7114

Who's cheaper and would have made Swifty McBreakatackle of the Bears there start every one of his kickoff returns from inside the End Zone, not outside the 10yrd line.

I don't have a beef with AV anymore. The kid's a keeper; but I agree that AV's got no real shot at a media gig here in New England anymore. There's too many guys who never stuck a knife in our backs.

jcdavey

he's getting in the HOF, he's pretty much been acknowledged by all as the best clutch kicker of all time the last few years

bank on it, he's in, and thanks to nfl HOF rules, he's going in as whoever he played with, so if he retires a colt he goes into the HOF as a pat and colt

that's why i like the nfl HOF over the mlb one, they nfl doesn't pick what team you go in as.

SoonerPatriot

The idea of Vinitraitor getting into the Hall wearing a Pats uni makes me want to puke blood.

jcdavey

they go in under the logo of the teams they played for, not a uni really

so he'll go in as a pat and colt, and whoever else he plays for if anyone else

SoonerPatriot

Regardless, when is retirement comes there won't be any ceremoinal 1 day contracts so he can retire a Patriot and there shouldn't be.

Gumby

I said this before when he left;

He did what he did IMO in equal parts for the money as he did for his long term marketability / history. He took a short term hit on his marketability in the NE area to buy IMMORTALITY.

There are NO KICKERS in the HOF. (disregarding those who also played QB).

There is a very good chance that if AV stayed in NE and we won 2 more SBs with him that he would not get any more consideration for Canton than any other kicker before him. Plenty of HOF voters would say yeah great he made a kick inthe snow; so what HE IS JUST A KICKER.

Or consider this: he competes against younger stronger legs (Gostkowski) in training camp and lost out, was cut and then had to go to a team without a resolved kicker situation. Maybe ends up on a Arizona or other cellar dweller team for a year or two and then retires as a nobody.

So he took his own situation in hand; moved to a DOME team that was competitive, a team that was willing to (OVER) pay top dollar and he had a chance to secure his legacy as THE KINGMAKER. Now that he has "brought" a SB trophy to 2 different teams; he will have proponents in the HOF voter crowd who can say - Look he was the final push that got Indy and NE over the hump - he WON the Baltimore game for Indy - He WON the SNOW BOWL and both SBs for NE. He deserves to be in.


All that said (that I UNDERSTAND his decision); As a PATS FAN; I disagree with it and it still feels like BETRAYAL to go to THAT TEAM.

I'll be happy if he chooses to wear a PATS helmet in Canton; but don't come back to NE looking to make a buck. I won't buy whatever you sell.