Adam Vinatieri can't come home again - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

***Patjew*** · 02-06-2007, 03:14 AM

I've forgiven him. It hurt like being dumped by a steady girlfriend when he left, but I'm over it now. Now I just appreciate what he did for us. I didn't think I would feel like this yet, but I do. And this is going to drive some of you guys nuts and make you lash out, but I'm happy for him that he got another ring.

Yankees/Colts · 02-06-2007, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PonyExpress

When Adam V.'s playing days are done, he will likely move to Florida or another warm weather climate where he can pursue his passion for golf. He may find his way into a network gig, or maybe travel the world and the seven seas. But if all those plans fall through, and he decides New England isn't so bad after all, and a job in the local media market seems appealing... I hope he thinks twice, and stays away. I realize other fans will find my views extreme, but as irrational as it may seem to some, any feelings I had for Adam V. the player evaporated this season. Watching him wearing the Colt uniform, happily beating the Pats in a heartbreaking game, and winning the SB as a Colt: those events ended the appreciation I once had for him as a Patriot player. He won another SB this year, but it came with a price: the gratitude of at least one Patriot fan for past glory. Don't come home again, Adam.

Yeah, but he'll always be a hero in Indianapolis. He'll always be welcome there. He might ride in the pace car in the Indy 500 for the rest of his life.

I think he's pretty happy being a Colt.

Fanfrom1960 · 02-06-2007, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

I think Adam realizes he's cut ties with New England, he prefers it this way, and he doesn't care. That's fine with me.

But I'll also tell you this: Adam will not enter the Hall of Fame unless something a lot more dramatic happens in his career. A couple amazing kicks doesn't land you in the Hall of Fame.

He is, after all, just a kicker.

There already is "just a kicker" in pro football's HOF named Jan Stenerud who doesn't have a single post season or any other kick that's as memorable or considered as clutch as three that Adam has. So, I think you're wrong. Vinatieri will make the HOF.

Hawg 73 · 02-06-2007, 04:37 AM

Adam who? The Pats kicker is the Ghost. That's the only kicker I care about right now!

Gumby · 02-06-2007, 07:06 AM

mea culpa - missed Jan Stenerud. Forced me to research before opening my mouth and inserting foot any deeper.

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From HOF website:

The 6-2, 187-pound Stenerud excelled for 19 seasons and 263 games in pro football. He never missed a game because of injury or illness. ...........

Stenerud is the first “pure” placekicker to enter the Hall. His list of outstanding achievements is long. With 1,699 points, he ranked behind only the fabled George Blanda in all-time scoring at the time of his retirement.

His 373 career field goals and seven seasons of scoring 100 or more points were also NFL records. He kicked 17 field goals over 50 yards and his personal best was a 55-yarder against Denver in 1970.

For comparison:

AV: In 11 seasons
............G FGM FGA PCT 1-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50+ LNG XPM XPA PTS
Career 173 288 349 82.5 7-7 106-110 88-105 79-109 8-18 57 405 412 1269

2006: 13 25 28 89.3 1 3 13 10 1 48 38 38 113

Needs 8 more years to match Stenerud - wont happen
Needs 430 pts to match Stenerud - could happen within 4 more seasons
Needs 85 FG to match Stenerud - could happen in 3 more seasons

He is 34 right now; I don't think most would think AV's leg would hold out much past 38; but athletes are aging more gracefully today. If he can stay in Domes where his lack of kickoff depth doesn't hurt him as much. ????

PatsMyBoyz! · 02-06-2007, 07:10 AM

On his field goals and taking some hits
"They weren't the most pretty things. I guess I'm a little dirty for a kicker, but what are you going to do."
http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal.../reiss_pieces/

FirstAndGoal · 02-06-2007, 07:17 AM

Jan Stenerud is in the HOF and he did not play QB

patriotspride · 02-06-2007, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PonyExpress

When Adam V.'s playing days are done, he will likely move to Florida or another warm weather climate where he can pursue his passion for golf. He may find his way into a network gig, or maybe travel the world and the seven seas. But if all those plans fall through, and he decides New England isn't so bad after all, and a job in the local media market seems appealing... I hope he thinks twice, and stays away. I realize other fans will find my views extreme, but as irrational as it may seem to some, any feelings I had for Adam V. the player evaporated this season. Watching him wearing the Colt uniform, happily beating the Pats in a heartbreaking game, and winning the SB as a Colt: those events ended the appreciation I once had for him as a Patriot player. He won another SB this year, but it came with a price: the gratitude of at least one Patriot fan for past glory. Don't come home again, Adam.

im with you .the guy makes me sick to my stomach .i have no good feelings left for that guy .

BigEZPatsFan76 · 02-06-2007, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Yankees/Colts

Yeah, but he'll always be a hero in Indianapolis. He'll always be welcome there. He might ride in the pace car in the Indy 500 for the rest of his life.

I think he's pretty happy being a Colt.

Well, you can have him, we don't want him.

EZ76

pheenix11 · 02-06-2007, 08:05 AM

Vinatieri should make it into the HOF. The 45 yd Snow Bowl kick to tie the game against the Raiders was the single greatest kick in NFL history. Then he won 2 SB's in the final seconds.

I don't get this bias against kickers in the HOF. They are on the team, they play, if they play well put them in the damn HOF.

Ray Guy is another one who belongs there.