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ATippett56 · 01-25-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by holyredeemer

I like your picks, except for the David Harris pick. He was good, but not very impressive. To me atleast. Not to mention that he is as slow as molasses. I think he runs the 40 in 4.7 and has even been timed near 4.8. That is slooooow.

01/24/07 - Senior Bowl North Team Wednesday Practice Report: David Harris has helped himself this week by showing the strength as an interior run plugger and surprising fluidity to the outside. He shows good instincts in coverage, but lacks the top flight change of direction to remain stuck to receivers. Still, he was always in the right place at the right time and would likely lead the team in tackles through the first three days of practice if such statistics were kept.

David Harris could possibly be a Ted Johnson clone?????????

holyredeemer · 01-25-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ATippett56

Here is a second day sleeper that the WEEI Big Show crew could be promoting ....................

Name: Zak DeOssie (+) Coming off Injury
College: Brown Number: 38
Height: 6-4 Weight: 245
Position: ILB Pos2: OLB/DE
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2007
40 Time: 4.62 40 Low: 4.55 40 High: 4.67
Projected Round: 5-6 Stock:
Rated number 9 out of 91 ILB's 181 / 2334 TOTAL

Personal
Zachary Robert DeOssie, born May 24, 1984...Son of Steve and Dianna DeOssie...Father, Steve, played in the NFL with Dallas, the New York Giants, the New York Jets, and the Patriots...Has two sisters, Christina and Nichole...Enjoys skiing and hanging out with friends...A Public Policy concentrator.

You know what. I was just at a forum that I accdentally found the other night at like 2 in the morning. I wouldnt have remembered this if it wasnt for you mentioning that name. Some guy who said he has close ties to a player for the Brown football team was saying that BB has been to several of Deossie's practices this past yr. and has been around him for quite some time. Now, I never put much into **** like that, but take it FWIW. Havent seen a video on him, but DAMMIT! If people keep talking about how much of a sleeper this guy is, then he'll no longer be a sleeper

ATippett56 · 01-25-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by holyredeemer

Havent seen a video on him, but DAMMIT! If people keep talking about how much of a sleeper this guy is, then he'll no longer be a sleeper

Are you stating that Bill Polian is spying on the New England Patriots messageboard?

holyredeemer · 01-25-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ATippett56

01/24/07 - Senior Bowl North Team Wednesday Practice Report: David Harris has helped himself this week by showing the strength as an interior run plugger and surprising fluidity to the outside. He shows good instincts in coverage, but lacks the top flight change of direction to remain stuck to receivers. Still, he was always in the right place at the right time and would likely lead the team in tackles through the first three days of practice if such statistics were kept.

David Harris could possibly be a Ted Johnson clone?????????

I agree with you on that assessment, but do we really want to use a 2nd rd. on a two down one-dimensional player? Our run d is fine, IMO. But, we really need to get guys that can follow those TE's and meet those quick RB's on the outside before they slip past our containment. I just dont see Harris doing that.

holyredeemer · 01-25-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ATippett56

Are you stating that Bill Polian is spying on the New England Patriots messageboard?

Now that you mention it. I wouldnt run it past that nut job. Anyway to one up us and he does it.

The Predator · 01-25-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ATippett56

The selection of Michael Griffin would be for the starting free safety position. Artrell Hawkins is slow as molasses in the defensive secondary and a serious upgrade is needed at free safety.

I am not sure where you get your info from but Hawkins is not as slow as molasses. He was originally drafted and played CB. He was not a top speed cb so Peas tried him at SS. He certainly is not a burner, but he is not slow either. He is average for his speed.

holyredeemer · 01-25-2007, 01:25 PM

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I am not sure where you get your info from but Hawkins is not as slow as molasses. He was originally drafted and played CB. He was not a top speed cb so Peas tried him at SS. He certainly is not a burner, but he is not slow either. He is average for his speed.

FWIW, just for the sake of argument. Hawkins last timed 40 that I could find documented on the internet was 4.31. That is damn fast, but I can tell ya right now he doesn't play that fast. I still think he is a solid player for us.

The Predator · 01-25-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by holyredeemer

FWIW, just for the sake of argument. Hawkins last timed 40 that I could find documented on the internet was 4.31. That is damn fast, but I can tell ya right now he doesn't play that fast. I still think he is a solid player for us.

Where did you find that? I looked, but couldn't find it. Not many players play as fast as there combine time. I will stand by what I said before and I believe you agree. Hawkins is not blazing and not slow. He has average speed of a cb.

***maverick4*** · 01-25-2007, 02:47 PM

I just saw footage of the LSU and Florida safeties, and they are big hitters, but average in coverage. I would much rather have Griffin back there.

ATippett56 · 01-25-2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by everlong

They had nothing on Griffin at the Senior Bowl.

"Texas' Michael Griffin and Miami's Brandon Meriweather apparently play at one speed. Despite wearing just shoulder pads, both safeties delivered big hits over the middle. There's a lot to like about their physical style of play, but they won't have a lot of fans if a player gets hurt. There's just too much on the line this close to draft day."

http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07...ory?id=2739563