How does SD defend Seymour? - Page 4 - New England Patriots Forums

sdfaninatlanta · 01-13-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PlattsFan

This is the place where the Patriots can win the game. No way can that kid handle Seymour one-on-one now that Seymour is functional physically. And a tall center will have all kinds of problems with Wilfork.

And, all due respect to big Richard, but that doesn't even cover the best D-lineman on the Pats this year, Ty Warren (a huge Pro Bowl snub if there ever was one). So, who gets doubled, and how can the guards get out to the second level to take on the LBs?

The Chargers have a lot of talent, and LT is just an amazing football player, but they need to at least fight the big 3 of the Pats to a draw or they'll have problems. As long as TBC and Colvin can set good edges (the thing that Willie McG was *great* at), the Patriots may do a better job than most at containing Tomlinson. Then they can focus on Gates and see if the WRs can beat them.

Gates will be tough to handle, though ... the main drawback of the Pats D right now is speed in the middle of the field.

This is really a great matchup. These games are why I watch football.

ill agree with you on your game assessment that the ne dline is a critical part of your success on sunday as well as it going to be a great game. the winner is super bowl champs in my opinion. if you are able to make lt's first move in the backfield it will be more difficult for the sd offense that is for sure but this offense unlike indys is no one trick pony.

ty warren is good but if you want to talk about pro bowl snubs the same could be said about luis castillo 7 sacks 9 games 38 tackles 1 int.

marcus mcniel has been huge all year playing with 2 broke hands and will have a big test this sunday with that said i think he will neutralize seymore in this game. i like our nt/center matchup and think that it will go both ways inside all game. wilfork will win some battles and hardwick will some battles. i dont forsee much double teaming of wilfork other than a chip on the start. the most likely spot for success is ty warren vs shane olivea but ty is not a speed rusher and that is what shane struggles with speed not so much strength and power but i still think warren could have a good game sunday vs olivea. that battle there is key as sd offense runs to the right to keep the run game balanced but lts big runs come on the left side mostly running behind mcnasty mcniel, dirty dielman, and galloping goff pulling lo neal smashing the 1st think the lineman miss with vincent jackson taking the corner out on a seal or running him inside.

this will be a good game sd 34-20

***40yrpatsfan*** · 01-13-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nickelbolt

Wasn't the question of the thread "How does SD defend Seymour?"

Quick look... yes... yes it was.

So all the talk about Tully Banta-Cain, Ty Warren, and Roosevelt Colvin is fine... I guess. But the truth is the majority of successful running plays by the Chargers are to the left side. Where our rookie left tackle is. And if I'm correct, that's where Seymour and Colvin will be (the Pats' right side) along with Vrabel. So if the run goes to that side you're gonna see him get doubleteamed by the combo I mentioned. Colvin will get the crack block from Vincent Jackson... a 6-5 240lb WR. LoNeal will be hitting the edge or upside in the hole to clean up Vrabel or Bruschi.

So if the edge is not containted, LT bounces it outside leaving him one on one with the CB (Samuel or Hobbs). If the play called is to run between the tackles, well then Warren or Wilfork will have a chance at making the play on backside pursuit.

Of course, if they've determined that the right side is the best option for this week... then you'll see the same thing to Warren's side. Just gonna have to rely on McNeill to keep Seymour occupied enough so he can't make the play from the backside.

No doubt in my mind, the goal for the Chargers is going to be getting to the edge. Testing the Pats to see how well they're going to turn the play inside. Watch any tape of LT's runs and it's clear that most CBs get the stiff arm and give up big runs. Rivers needs these plays to work in order to set up the play action pass. So I think they'll commit to it.

Should be fun to watch.

I doubt the Chargers game plan is to run at Seymour. He's not a pass-rushing 4-3 DE where you neutralize him by running at him. He's a home-wrecking, change-the-LOS 3-4 DE. If they run his way and he occupies 2 guys while holding his ground, those plays are going nowhere.

The Chargers are going to be shocked at the lack of running success they're going to have. Get in line with all the other playoff opponents NE has done this to, and this is proabably the best run D the Pats have ever fielded.