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Old 01-02-2007, 08:46 AM   #1
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Just wondering how you all see the matchups.
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:49 AM   #2
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The Jest is averaging 3.5 YPC. We were allowing about 3.4 YPC until Wilfork got hurt and he'll be back (I assume, I guess I don't know for sure). The last time we played Warren was out.

This is one of the bigger advantages for the Patriots.
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The Jest is averaging 3.5 YPC. We were allowing about 3.4 YPC until Wilfork got hurt and he'll be back (I assume, I guess I don't know for sure). The last time we played Warren was out.

This is one of the bigger advantages for the Patriots.
That 3.5 ypc is the whole year right? I wonder how they look over last
six games. It seems Washington has been a spark to their run offense.

Nope: you're right .... over last 6 games they averaged just 3.2 ypc
and against teams with good run Ds only 2.9!

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That 3.5 ypc is the whole year right? I wonder how they look over last
six games. It seems Washington has been a spark to their run offense.
Washington is averaging 4.3. But since his breakout game way back in Week 7 the only games in which he's averaged 4.0 or better are ones in which he's had 7 carries or less. Cedric Houston is getting most of the carries but he's largely sucked.

Bottom line, with Vince in I think we can stop anyone's running game and The Jest's running game in the least of my concerns.

Now, Washington as a receiver out of the backfield, that's a little more worrisome.
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*PATS run Offense vs JETs run Defense
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Offensively and Defensively, I don't see where the Jets would have an advantage against the Pats.
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The Jest is averaging 3.5 YPC. We were allowing about 3.4 YPC until Wilfork got hurt and he'll be back (I assume, I guess I don't know for sure). The last time we played Warren was out.

This is one of the bigger advantages for the Patriots.
I'd forgotten Warren was out. Funny, isn't it, if Sey was out, it would be all over the news, "Oh yeah, the big man was out, that explains everything. Don't blame BB or credit Mangini -- Seymour didn't play."

So, Warren is chopped liver? He's been the strength inside of the run defense all year, AND the QB pressure. Not that Wilfork or Seymour are slouches, but missing Warren is huge and that game, IIRC, we lost the battle at the LOS.

Man, that completely changes the picture for me. Not that I'll look past Sunday, but I'll look forward to Mr. Washington spending the day under half a ton of sweaty linemen. While I sit back and enjoy.

Bring it on, baby, bring it on!
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-Since the Jets game we have installed a new field after that mud bowl.

-The patriots will have Ty Warren back for this game and Stephen Neal who many people forgot that he did not play and how good he has been this season.

-Barlow and Dillon were the main rushing players in the game and its not surprising based on how bad the field conditions were that too big power running backs had a severe advantage over guys like Maroney and Washigton.

-A surprising statistic is although we passed for more yards and ran for more yards we were still beaten. That's puts a question in my mind that small ball had to come into play.

-Brady was sacked 4 times for a loss of 21 yards and a fumble and also threw an interception. Gabriel also fumbled on a poor play that he should not have fumbled on if it wasn't for very poor ball protection. The Jets defender easily knocked the ball out of his hands.

-Patriots 3rd down percentage was 25%. Meaning the Jets defense was more than ready to defend the Patriots and knew certain plays that were coming.
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I worry most about Mattissa Light letting Brady get hammered from his blind-side by the Jets. Against the Titans the Pat's returned to putting Graham on the left-side to help out Mattissa - last season it was to help out Kaczur. Why McDaniels didn't put Graham over there earlier in the season is beyond comprehension - it could have meant at least one more win. If Mattissa is left by himself to do his door-mat routine it greatly affects Brady's rhythm and confidence.
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-A surprising statistic is although we passed for more yards and ran for more yards we were still beaten.
Yes, we actually outgained them by 50%.
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I worry most about Mattissa Light letting Brady get hammered from his blind-side by the Jets. Against the Titans the Pat's returned to putting Graham on the left-side to help out Mattissa - last season it was to help out Kaczur. Why McDaniels didn't put Graham over there earlier in the season is beyond comprehension - it could have meant at least one more win. If Mattissa is left by himself to do his door-mat routine it greatly affects Brady's rhythm and confidence.
I'm sorry, but when I see garbage like this posted, I just have to call it out. Slamming Matt Light with childish insults and bogus accusations is just ridiculous and shows you really don't follow the line play all that well. Last I looked, Light had only given up 4.5 sacks (He may be up to 5 or 6 by now) It was still significantly less than what he gave up either of his 1st 2 years.

Light does have trouble with speed rushers like Taylor, Freeney and Schoebel. But ALL the LTs in the league have problems with them. Every O-Lineman has had issues this year.

When Brady got tagged by Kerry Rhodes versus the Jets, it wasn't Light's fault. Rhodes isn't Light's blocking assignment.

If you are going to slam a guy, how about actually coming out with FACTS instead of innuendo and garbage?
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