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THAT PLAYER WAS T.E. ART GRAHAM
I THINK IT WAS JOE`S BEST GAME HE EVER PLAYED AGAINST US
I do remember thinking that WOW this guy really is worth a $400,000 signing bonus!
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I just like the Walter Brown story a little better in the 'Irish owner with no money but a romantic dream' category.
Billy fought almost insurmountable odds. If people don't think NE is a hotbed of football excitement now, they should have seen it in the 1950's. BC's football greatness ofthe 40's was over and the best local college player EVER took a job on the Red Sox bench before dying tragically. People of that era STILL hate Pat Summerall and the Giants because up until the 1970's the Giants preempted the Pats on local TV every Sunday.
Even in the 70's and early 80's I can still remember Eddie Andelman on the old Sports Huddle program on WHDH on Sunday nights running through the NFL scores blandly and then (with great relish) saying "....and the New York Giants received a VICIOUS beating to the_________ 19-14"
I am interested in Sullivan. I don't think Walter Brown is interesting. A wonderful guy, but Auerbach was the interesting one.
(Bolded part)-That's what I'm talking about. Thanks.
I really don't want to get into an argument about Sullivan. If you hate him, I respect that. If you want to call him a thief, fine. Whatever makes you happy.
Does anybody remember the last game of the 1966 season. Against Joe Namath and the Jets. The Patriots lost 38-28. As I recall, if they had won they would have faced Kansas City for a chance to play in the first superbowl...
The famous play of that game, in which a Patriot was held by his shirt on a breakaway play - if they had used "tear shirts" (remember those?) they might have played in the Superbowl...
That was one of the hardest Patriots losses ever, at least for me. That '66 team was one of my favorites of all time, with Jim Nance in his prime. They would have been in the playoffs but for Joe Willie and Shea Stadium.
Namath was absolutely unconscious that day, throwing perfect bullets 40 yards downfield. Later he wrote that he partied hard the night before, and was so hung over for that game that he couldn't remember a thing about it.
In 1966 to 1971 Bob starr did play by play Santos did the color.
The Birmingham game was played against San Diego.
The game here was shown on video tape not live.Chanell 4 showed it
at 11 pm. Red sox was in world serries thats why.
It took 6 months i remeber to get our refunds $18.00
My wife was right i was wrong pats played jets in birmingham.
San diego was in 1966 they switched the game from here to San diego.
Guess I`m getting old
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My wife was right i was wrong pats played jets in birmingham.
San diego was in 1966 they switched the game from here to San diego.
Guess I`m getting old
The reason why it was the Jets in Birmingham was
Joe Namath played college ball at Alabama and Billy Sullivan
thought it would draw fans to see him play and also decide to build a stadium for the Patriots and he would have moved the team.
That was one of the hardest Patriots losses ever, at least for me. That '66 team was one of my favorites of all time, with Jim Nance in his prime. They would have been in the playoffs but for Joe Willie and Shea Stadium.
Namath was absolutely unconscious that day, throwing perfect bullets 40 yards downfield. Later he wrote that he partied hard the night before, and was so hung over for that game that he couldn't remember a thing about it.
That was, apparently, the year they beat at Buffalo at Fenway Park, only two weeks previously (on December 4, 1966), which up to that point might have been the "biggest" game I was aware of, as a fan.
One of the things I remember about that Jets game was a commentator at half-time saying something about how it didn't look like the Patriots could pull it out, because they were trailing by (maybe, I don't remember) 10 points. For some reason I was shocked that that was considered an insurmountable lead.
It has been my understanding that Minnesota was the eight franchise for the New AFL..... and Boston was on the outside, looking in.
At the last minute, Minnesota opted to wait for an NFL franchise instead,which they got a year later, and because of that, Boston, and Billy SUllivan, got the eighth AFL franchise..and I believe the franchise fee, at that time, was a measly $25,000.00. Stock was available at $2.50 a share..and eventually, Sullivan bought it all out from the people who bought in.
I believe the stock was underpriced just as the Celtics stock was. People bought it to support the team that no sane person thought could make it.
For a few shares of stock they had a football team. I don't believe he was accused of doing anything illegal, but I'm not a securities expert.
We seem to have experts on every field, not just football here.
I fault Sullivan for loving football and the team. Once he gained control he could have sold the team or moved it, like Kraft threatened to do.
Maybe we would have been better off had he sold to another owner, I'm not defending him on that.
But for somebody that devoted most of his life trying to keep a franchise without a stadium afloat and who finally found a site, inadequate though it was, to have the sum total be "he's just a thief".....
That just sucks IMO.
Had he been only in it for the money, he had plenty of opportunity to cash out.
Maybe Kraft was totally bluffing about Hartford, are we sure?................
Anyone else go to the first game at Schaeffer Stadium? I was just a yungun' then, I remember the place wasn't done, and I had to pee in the sink (I had to be held up to go). It was my first pro game, and I loved it.
Anyone else go to the first game at Schaeffer Stadium? I was just a yungun' then, I remember the place wasn't done, and I had to pee in the sink (I had to be held up to go). It was my first pro game, and I loved it.
Didn't go but I remember listening to Gil Santos on WBZ saying there still alot of headlights crawling toward the parking lots in the second quarter.
Pats beat the Giants in that pre-season game as I recall. Remember hearing after the game that the stadium plumbing still needed a little work.
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