italian pat patriot

what is your opinion on this issue ? at the moment we have allready 7 numbers retired (20,40,57,73,78,79,89)

probably in the future 54,80 and 12 will also be retired...

''too many'' for considering Grogan ?

ironwasp

There always seems to be confusion about the criteria for the jersey retiring and what it takes for that to happen and the difference between the Patriots Hall of Fame and the Ring of Honor or whatever it is.

But by any yardstick, I'd say Grogan was deserving of that honour, although I would have Andre Tippett ahead of him.

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PatsSox363804

I agree but it's so weird seeing Testaverde out there (on the sidelines) wearing #14, I was a huge Grogan fan growing up.

italian pat patriot

his number was # 56 ?

JoeSixPat

Grogan should definately be retired. Maybe one might want to debate the numbers but for me, if the numbers are close, it winds up being more about heart and work ethic - an example for Patriots for years to come.

I think the organization seems to feel that Tippett's a good role model too - though I'd retire Grogran's number before his.

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RayClay

Jon Morris 7 time AllPro

Houston Antwine 6 time AllPro

Ray Clayborn 3 allpro

These aren't even in the Patriots hall of fame.

Grogan was a good tough player, but he shouldn't be in the Pats Hall ahead of these three and others. No favoritism for quarterback, please.

A healthy Grogan wasn't even the starter over Eason.
He's Behind Bledsoe, Brady and maybe Parilli among Patriots QBs.

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DarrylS

How about Julius Adams, #85 he labored in the D trenches for something like 14 years and made all pro several times. Or Darryl Stingley, some gave all.

I think you need to differentiate between retiring a number and honoring a player, thus the need for a ring of honor type thing aside from number retirement. The Pats are building something right now to house a lot of this stuff and maybe they will figure out how to honor all of these great players.

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Murphys95

I think Grogan should be honored - but retiring jerseys is a limited venture (sooner or later you're going to run out of numbers!), so I'd go a ring of fame inside the stadium. Wouldn't it be awesome to see the names of former Patriots greats along the inside rim of the stadium?

Grogan played for 16 years with the Patriots. I think his leadership and service should be celebrated.

Yes, Andre Tippet was #56

italian pat patriot

i have read an article where also Parilli, Buoniconti are mentioned and, in the future, Brady , Brown, Bruschi and Vinatieri.

Of course Brady is 100% (obviously...)

Murphys95

Great idea (man I type slow)!