JoeSixPat

OK - its after Thanksgiving. We've gone through the majority of the first 10 games hearing that the offense - particularly the receiving game "just needs more time"

Can we put an end to this now? How they play is how they are - ... it is what it is as one coach I know often says.

This is far from a perfect team - but there is no need to make excuses... what's going to make the difference is whether or not the team can rise above its many flaws and simply do what needs to be done to win some very tough games.

Hopefully the receivers can play beyond their skills - as some have been (I'll say for the dozenth time Reche Caldwell is proving me and a lot of other people wrong about him) and hopefully this will free up Watson for some more yardage than he's been getting because of the tight coverage.

All this being said, I still give rookies like Chad Jackson until the playoffs to truly start playing like veterans rather than rookies -but while we should still keep expecations reasonable for CJ I'm expecting he'll get a lot more passes coming his way in the next few games.

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kptmorgan04

yes and yes..... as has been said by many who havent been jumping off bridges after losses, this is the time of year when we can start to truely judge what this team is made of. A win or loss to the bears wont completly say one way or another, but it will tell alot more about this team than it would have 6 weeks ago.
I really really hope to see some more production from CJ in the next few games, because if not I dont see him all of the sudden coming on during the playoffs, but never know.

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RayClay

185 - 317 - 14 - 6.8 Seahawks

199 - 334 - 9 - 6.87 Patriots

Since we have more completions for more yardage and a better average than the team with Darryl Jackson, Deion and 7 mil a year Burleson,the question is:

Give them time for what?

Will our passing game get better? Probably. Is that a bad thing?

Also 6th rated passing O in AFC by NFL.com, (Don't know what their formula is).

Fifth rated run O BTW.

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JoeSixPat

I think the common refrain was that Brady and his teammates needed "time" to get to know each other to improve their performance and missed passes (by the way do your stats include missed passes and dropped passes etc... or just those that
are actually completed?)

I apologize though - I could have sworn we had some pretty mediocre games against the Jets and Colts just a few weeks ago and there were plenty of excuses then. But then you have a great game against a Super Bowl contender like the Packers and everyone forgets about that.

I must be thinking of another team. As you note the statistics show that this team is better than most of our previous teams.

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Michael

Meh, after watching Lions v. Phins yesterday it made me appreciate how good the Pats are all the more.

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RayClay

Of course you look tighter using the same two receivers all the time.

With your rosey colored hindsight glasses, you probably remember Deion and Givens being healthy all the time.

Of course that wasn't the case. Let's remember what we really had at receiver for significant stretches.

Dedric Ward

jj stokes

Bethel Johnson

Andre Davis

Tim Dwight

Our 4 new guys looking a little better now? With 6 more games left?

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pats1

Is it October again? Are we still trying to pin the blame on the receivers? Hasn't that gotten old?

Don't hold your breath.

kptmorgan04

All I was saying is that if he continues what he has been doing he wont be one to all of the sudden come on strong in the playoffs. so no I am not holding my breath. thanks for making sure I keep on breathing though

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pats1

There's a cutoff line in the late-season where, if a player isn't performing well by then, he can't perform well in the playoffs?

kptmorgan04

In my opinion for a rookie WR yes. you may not agree, but I do not think that he will be able to just turn it on and develop trust in brady come playoff time if he doesnt do so in the next few games. The only player in general that I can remember doing so in the brady/BB era was Wiggins.
As BB has been saying as of late, he has been improving and I hope for the sake of the offense and some explosviness that he continues on that path before the playoffs start.
But all I was saying in my inital post is that yes the time is now to fairfly judge the team in these next 1-3 weeks to see if we have what it takes to go deep into the playoffs.

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