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Old 11-23-2006, 03:36 PM   #11
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Actually it does happen that people buy tickets they didn't agree to, or at prices they don't want.

If you buy tickets at Ticketmaster, they use some new stupid computer routine that doesn't lock in the ticket being offered. I am talking about their outlets, not on-line. They offer you the ticket, you say yes and while the financial transaction is going through those tickets are sold somewhere else. What comes out of the printer are different seats than what you agreed to. They don't fix it either, you are stuck with it. I paid top dollar for great seats to a concert, and ended up with lesser seats. I might still have bought them, but not at the top price.

There are so many outlets working off the same ticket pool and things move so fast that they may even be offering tickets that are already sold, but haven't been updated as gone.
I guess you know now, then, and should go through Ticketmaster on-line. I have no idea if what you said is true, I have no reason to leave my house to buy tickets. On-line you have two minutes to buy the exact seats they offer.

But we were talking about Patriots tickets, I believe, not concert tickets.
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Old 11-23-2006, 03:57 PM   #12
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I guess you know now, then, and should go through Ticketmaster on-line. I have no idea if what you said is true, I have no reason to leave my house to buy tickets. On-line you have two minutes to buy the exact seats they offer.

But we were talking about Patriots tickets, I believe, not concert tickets.

I have a wireless connection and can't get their on-line site to work. It gets all the way to the end of a purchase and then has a technical error, and the tickets I was trying to buy are gone.

'You have no reason to know if what I said is true' .... OK. So what is the point of the forum then ?

No, your comment was about it being a first if someone paid for a ticket they didn't agree to the price of, you may have assumed it was a Pats ticket, but you lacked specificity.
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you may have assumed it was a Pats ticket, but you lacked specificity.
It's a Patriots forum and the thread is about Patriots tickets. Duh.
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:31 PM   #14
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Actually it does happen that people buy tickets they didn't agree to, or at prices they don't want.

If you buy tickets at Ticketmaster, they use some new stupid computer routine that doesn't lock in the ticket being offered. I am talking about their outlets, not on-line. They offer you the ticket, you say yes and while the financial transaction is going through those tickets are sold somewhere else. What comes out of the printer are different seats than what you agreed to. They don't fix it either, you are stuck with it. I paid top dollar for great seats to a concert, and ended up with lesser seats. I might still have bought them, but not at the top price.

There are so many outlets working off the same ticket pool and things move so fast that they may even be offering tickets that are already sold, but haven't been updated as gone.
The original poster was talking about NFL tickets in general and Patriots tickets is particular. How much you paid for a concert ticket or a parking ticket isn't germane to the question at hand.

Unless... have you ever purchased a ticket for a Patriots game and never gotten the seat advertised?

It happened to me twice. End zone tickets, three of them. The seats were set up wrong after a concert and one of the seats didn't exist. They offered to give me one ticket way in the back, but I said I wanted three together. The guy gave me better seats, 8th row on the goal line.

Another time I received a call from the pats ticket office. The seats I bought (third level) were not available. THey offered me three is section 109. It didn't take long to say yes.

All that said, I have never bought tickets for one seat and received different seats when I picked up my tickets. All were mistakes caught by the stadium people.
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Who cares? And you guys think that Maroney getting more touches is a useless thread? Ok
Who cares? Not everyone is an STH. When StubHub has hundreds of tickets but at anywhere from 3x to 10x their face value, and you're trying to find tickets, it pisses you off. Especially when it's blatant illegal activity.

(But is it TIGHT?)
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I don't understand the logic behind scalping being illegal. We live in a capitalistic society. We are talking about a luxury item, not something like food, health care, medicine or heating oil.

If I buy $500 worth of Tom Brady cards and he wins another Super Bowl and someone offers me $1,000, that's perfectly legal. If I wait in line 72 hours to buy a PS3 for $600 and sell it on eBay for $2,000, that's perfectly legal. If I am a car dealer and buy 200 cars from Volkswagen for $20,000 each and sell them for $25,000 each, that's perfectly legal.

But for some reason in many states, tickets do not fall into our capitalistic system... go figure...
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Who cares? Not everyone is an STH. When StubHub has hundreds of tickets but at anywhere from 3x to 10x their face value, and you're trying to find tickets, it pisses you off. Especially when it's blatant illegal activity.
Set aside the legality of scalping and answer me this: Why does it "piss you off" that Chicago-NE tickets sell for what people are willing to pay...? Where's the logic in getting mad at the free enterprise system at work...?
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Consequently, each year when tickets go on sale, the ticket brokers (ticket agency) gobble up as many of the tickets as they can, on a season ticket basis, and they have hundreds, if not thousands, to sell a inflated prices.
And I am sure they are all losing a fortune as the Cardinals have exploded into a 2-8 season.
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Hypocrites. They sell Super Bowl tickets through PrimeSport. $2000 for air, hotel, transportation. With a game ticket it's $4000.
That's an absolutely brilliant point, and it explains why every single Pats STH I know (and I know about 20 of them) wasn't offered any tickets for any of the 4 Super Bowl NE has gone to during the Kraft era. The team scalps the tickets themselves, only through another shill company. It's one of the dirty little secrets.
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I'm not going to stick up for ticket scalpers, but IMO, when a fan resells his tickets, the team got what they wanted for them, so how are they hurt? I went to the Vikings game and the tickets were bought on Ebay for more than face value and I was happy to get them. The Vikings already got what they wanted for them so how are the Vikings hurt by that? IMO, reselling tickets is a victimless crime. No one is forced to pay the higher price. The team got what they wanted for them. The buyer got what they wanted and the seller, too. If people don't want to pay ticket scalper prices, don't buy the dam things. Duh.
That's exactly how I feel. The funny thing is what people fail to realize is that if scalping is illegal, the people that are hurt the most are the consumers.

I was able to go to Super Bowl 39 because I went to eBay and bought tickets. I paid a small fortune but it was worth it to me. Where's the problem in that...?
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